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@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.


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#1 Chip

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:58 PM

Wal-Mart has the new Transformers right next to the Cars stuff, and I've noticed that the Cars line now features several characters based on two cars I have long admired: the AMC Pacer and AMC Gremlin. There's just something charming about these cars; something very distinct from what we see on the road today. When will Hasbro close this AMC gap? And when will they advance this arms race by introducing a character based on the mighty AMC Javelin?

Edited by Chip, 01 August 2011 - 09:59 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:00 PM

I designed a Gremlin TF once, but never did the full drawing....

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:07 PM

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:10 PM

I want a Le Car. I have fond memories of that car from my childhood. Ok, I have memories of it.


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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Aug 1 2011, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wal-Mart has the new Transformers right next to the Cars stuff, and I've noticed that the Cars line now features several characters based on two cars I have long admired: the AMC Pacer and AMC Gremlin. There's just something charming about these cars; something very distinct from what we see on the road today. When will Hasbro close this AMC gap? And when will they advance this arms race by introducing a character based on the mighty AMC Javelin?


The Gremlin's secret mech-tech could be "EXPLODING GAS TANK"!

The Pacer's? "GREAT VISIBILITY!" and "PASSENGER DOOR SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN DRIVER'S SIDE!"

The Javelin though would be a cool one. My step-dad had a Javelin when I was a kid and I definitely liked it.
 
 
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 11:04 PM

the old K car would make me laugh
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 11:17 PM

Only if the next director wills it so.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 11:28 PM

Oh, I thought this thread was going to be about how much better Breaking Bad is than anything else on television.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 05:35 AM

I always liked the ... SX4 I want to say it was called?
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 08:27 AM

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 11:51 AM

A Nissan Figaro, or Escargo would be awesome.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Aug 2 2011, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, I thought this thread was going to be about how much better Breaking Bad is than anything else on television.

I thought it was going to be about the live-action movies performing significantly differently at a particular chain of cinemas from how they perform elsewhere.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 05:05 PM

The real fact of the matter is why would Bay utilize a defunct automaker who couldn't give him free stuff to drive?
 
 
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Aug 2 2011, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The real fact of the matter is why would Bay utilize a defunct automaker who couldn't give him free stuff to drive?


Because Pacers are just that awesome.
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#15 Chip

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Aug 2 2011, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The real fact of the matter is why would Bay utilize a defunct automaker who couldn't give him free stuff to drive?

I'd be perfectly happy with an unlicensed close-enough version, so it wouldn't have to be a movie thing.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:13 PM

You know I'm completely floored that Bay missed the boat on custom car shops for Decepticons. So what if the main companies didn't like the idea of their car being a villain? Get custom shops to do what Hasbro does with toys. Modify the body and headlight designs enough to be not litigious, and add the "Decepticon" flair to it.

One thing I liked about Movie 'Scream is that he still altered part of the human design with his own thing which was a big "jive you I don't want to be identified as weak human equipment".

But, yes, on topic...


The more cars the merrier to me...


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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE(Blacknife @ Aug 2 2011, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know I'm completely floored that Bay missed the boat on custom car shops for Decepticons.

Don't worry, the custom car shops got plenty of work making the Autobots' alt-modes look like giant toys because Hasbro didn't think realistic toy cars would sell.



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