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@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.


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#1 TJMD

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

Unofficial MP Soundwave in Development

I'm liking it. Wondering what the price will be like, considering how expensive regular MP figures are.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:34 AM

Were cassette decks ever that enormous?

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:35 AM

Yup that looks pretty fantastic.

Definitely best Soundwave headsculpt I've seen from any company (official or not).

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:36 AM

It's PERFECT! icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jul 20 2011, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Were cassette decks ever that enormous?


They pretty much sacrificed the alt mode for the robot mode. So now we get a giant micro-cassette player that has a robot's torso for the front of it.

If Titanium Soundwave wasn't so absolutely terrible, I'd be tempted to compare the two.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:09 AM

http://bbs.actoys.ne...tid-689186.html

Looks great!
And new Cassettes!

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:10 AM

Wow. That looks really good.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:14 AM

That's not big enough for the cassettes to be full-size 80s audio cassettes, as they were shown to be in comics & cartoons, is it?

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:15 AM


Wish that was an official toy.

And, honestly, that it was Classics scale more than Masterpiece.

And that it came with an updated modern Laserbeak.

So, basically, if it were something ENTIRELY different from what it is, but looked roughly the same visually I'd love it.


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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE(Meister79 @ Jul 20 2011, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And new Cassettes!


Looks like just a modified Universe Ravage, G1 Laserbeak, and the Gears of War Auto-Scout to me...

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:26 AM

Whoa! Thats really cool. I was expecting some half-assed thing using mp-01's body as a base. This blows my mind.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

I do really like the head, but other than that, not really much going for it for me to be too interested.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:33 AM

Those are the Dreamwaviest legs.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:47 AM

I like it other than the fact that the tape deck looks a bit weird, but it's bigger than I'd really want since I don't particularly care about the Masterpiece scale.

I guess if they go for keeping the G1 cassette functionality, you either end up with a huge toy with a proportionate looking chest, or a slightly smaller toy with a really wide looking chest.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 12:01 PM

Yeah. Shrink this down and make new, smaller cassettes. Perfection.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE(Somebody @ Jul 20 2011, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not big enough for the cassettes to be full-size 80s audio cassettes, as they were shown to be in comics & cartoons, is it?




The original tapes were 1:1 scale because they were microcassettes, not full size cassette tapes.


I love the way it looks, but it's just too big. Have to pass. DAT HEAD, though.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:22 PM

I think it looks great. An excellent update to the G1 mold. The only thing that really bothers me is the location of the hip joints. They look too low. They should have gone the Gundam route and used front and back hip panels. This would have raised the hip joints and look better proportioned. I loved the updated Ravage we got with Hound. I'm surprised Hasbro hasn't given us an updated Laserbeak yet. Perhaps a clue that they are in fact working on a Soundwave update and that he'll come with Laserbeak?
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jul 20 2011, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Were cassette decks ever that enormous?


They weren't tiny


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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:44 PM

Yeah, tape decks were hardly anything dainty. I love this figure, I really do. I'm just more in the market for a smaller version. Overall though, this guy seems to be a success.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:47 PM

Uh... that tape player really does not look significantly larger than the tape it would contain. And the perspective certainly is making it "look" bigger than it actually is, what with the woman's face well in the background.


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