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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg


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#41 C16

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:25 PM

I wouldn't spend $10 on it. I don't like the design or the figure shortcomings as a toy.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:32 PM

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I'm interested in the fact that is has an official "stealth submarine" mode according to the instructions. Makes him a Triple Changer.


Wow, that's almost as bad as that transforming watch thing.

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#43 mx-01 archon

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Nov 25 2011, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't spend $10 on it. I don't like the design or the figure shortcomings as a toy.


You don't like anything, so I don't think anybody was expecting useful input from you icon-waspy.gif.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 01:43 PM

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I'd rather spend $80 on ML Soundwave than $30 on Not-Soundwave.

Frankly I'd do both since they'd occupy two different places in my collection. That being said, I sprung for the discount price - he sits in my pile of loot now.
 
 
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 03:09 PM

Soundwave toys are a major thing in my collection. Even if I don't like a toy line (Animated for example) I still buy the Soundwave. I was gonna pass on this for $60 but for $29 I think Im gonna bite. I do like how it looks sooooooo I may be able to look past its ovious flaws.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Nov 28 2011, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soundwave toys are a major thing in my collection. Even if I don't like a toy line (Animated for example) I still buy the Soundwave. I was gonna pass on this for $60 but for $29 I think Im gonna bite. I do like how it looks sooooooo I may be able to look past its ovious flaws.

Wish me luck



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Posted 28 November 2011 - 03:51 PM

At this price, I was considering getting him just for a "Thirdformers" display. All non-official version of characters.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:01 PM

With all due honesty knowing his problems I can see myself regularly playing with him. I mean what happens if he breaks Im out 30 bucks oh well.
Im kinda looking at it like if I were to buy a knock off G1 Megatron for $10 just to have one to enjoy not having to worry bout breaking it.

I may even make him a custom set of crutches and call him Tiny Wave icon-fire.gif
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:26 PM

I didn't know that Sonicron was a near exact copy of an existing model recorder. He seems to be a Sony M-200MC voice recorder. I even saw one selling for $25 on ebay used.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:09 AM

Discounted Sonicrons seem to be the rage. Robot Kingdom knocked him down to $29.

http://www.robotking...mp;CatID=41_242

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Nov 25 2011, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Nov 25 2011, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thread revival due to BBTS sale.

So is this worth $29?


Depends on your tastes. It's an ambitious design that certainly could've used a bit more ironing out before release (expecting it to look like the concept art, however, is an impossibility). A number of joints could've been tighter, for sure, but they're all easily fixable.

The figure has some "ergonomic" issues, in that getting into nooks and crannies to pry things apart with your fingernails as intended is nigh impossible, probably requiring some tool assistance. That's my major beef with the figure. Opening the hand and head covers is tricky in this regard (but not completely impossible).

I find the figure's upper torso area looks pretty good, looks off compared to the waist/legs in static poses, but the whole figure gels better in more dynamic poses, where the flatness of the legs is hidden by angling them out somewhat.

The recorder mode is impressive, with a ton of true-to-life detail (including tampoed electronic icons and such), which is really the best thing about the figure.

I've had this in hand for a bit now. Out of package, I was really let down by it, but now that I've had time to tinker with it and become more familiar with it, I'm starting to really warm to it.

The flaws are everything mx-01 archon pointed out above. My biggest issues with the figure are the same aforementioned "ergonomics". The hand and head covers are the primary culprits along with the post for the shoulder mounted cannon that is so recessed inside the piece that there's no possible way you could pry it out with your fingernail. I wish the head fit inside the back better than it did. I already accidentally made a tiny stress mark on the back panel because I didn't have the head in the back cavity just so and then tried to force the back panel shut.

The shoulders are kind of loose, but the main ball joints are solid enough that I'm not having any major problem with poses. The right upper arm swivel is way too loose though. The waist joints that allow forward and backward leg movement are real loose too. I'm going to need to dissassemble the waist and try some crazy gluing to stiffen up the joints there. I can get him to stand, but he'll tip forward at the waist if I'm not careful.

That's really the other flaw with the figure. I'm needing to fix it up to get it where it should be. I already had to shave some plastic off of the left forearm peg so that it would be able to slide upwards in the slot on the torso so it could be flush with the right arm in alt mode. I had a heck of a time getting the cassette door to stay closed in alt mode, and even when I managed to get it shut the mechanism is on a hair trigger. There's a peg on the right wrist when you put the hand inside the forearm that sits on top of the eject button. The idea is that you press the "stop/eject" button in alt mode and it pushes the wrist which pushes the little red eject button on the torso. I'm thinking just shaving that peg on the wrist just a hair should fix this problem. There's some kind of issue with the right leg panel where I can't get it to collapse properly like it does on the left side when going to alt mode. The panel pops off easy enough, i just need to figure out what's not catching like it should when I go to collapse it.

I'm complaining and complaining about this figure, yet, he's growing on me. He actually looks really nice, and once you're used to handling him, you find he's more durable than you thought. Plastic quality is pretty decent. I'd recommend him for $29 if you're not afraid of fixing the various looseness and part issues mentioned above.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 05:21 PM

Just noticed that BBTS has him listed at 29.99 again.

So I broke down & got him for this price, hope I'm not too disappointed. Also grabbed an Autoscout from Digital Toys, which still has a few of those.

Can't say that Not Frenzy & Not Rumble interest me in the slightest. However, I admit their Nightfang (not Ratbat) has caught my eye. Of course, if it comes in a two pack with Savage (Not Ravage) I hope it looks more like this & not like this.

Still, surprised that BTS didn't split up Tremor & Frequency between the two molds. Also, I wonder why the went with Ravage, instead of a Laserbeak update.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

I got Nightfang and Savage today. I had been excited about Savage, but in person my favorite thing about him is that he didn't cost more and I don't know what my second favorite thing is. He's a mess and he doesn't hold together really well. Nightfang is pretty neat. I'm not a Ratbat fan, but this is a pretty cool design.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:55 PM

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I got Nightfang and Savage today. I had been excited about Savage, but in person my favorite thing about him is that he didn't cost more and I don't know what my second favorite thing is. He's a mess and he doesn't hold together really well. Nightfang is pretty neat. I'm not a Ratbat fan, but this is a pretty cool design.


Same here I just got my set today and I love Nightfang (the reason I bought the set). His hip-slide area is a little loose but other than that he is pretty solid. I cant say Im happy with Savage. All his shoulder joints popped off and wouldn't you believe it but they slid his tail into place during assembly so it got glued into place. icon-wheelie.gif icon-wildride.gif icon-fire.gif
I cant say I wasn't surprised but I will say this Nightfang is gonna look real good perched on my Tinywaves' shoulder
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 04:00 PM

Sooooo, basically more of the same, qualitywise?
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Axaday @ Apr 3 2012, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got Nightfang and Savage today. I had been excited about Savage, but in person my favorite thing about him is that he didn't cost more and I don't know what my second favorite thing is. He's a mess and he doesn't hold together really well. Nightfang is pretty neat. I'm not a Ratbat fan, but this is a pretty cool design.


Same here I just got my set today and I love Nightfang (the reason I bought the set). His hip-slide area is a little loose but other than that he is pretty solid. I cant say Im happy with Savage. All his shoulder joints popped off and wouldn't you believe it but they slid his tail into place during assembly so it got glued into place. icon-wheelie.gif icon-wildride.gif icon-fire.gif
I cant say I wasn't surprised but I will say this Nightfang is gonna look real good perched on my Tinywaves' shoulder

Did you try pulling up on the tail? It slides up before it can lower down so the tail is longer than you initially think it is.

I had seen some really nice pics over at TFW of notRatbat, and I caved on this minion set over the weekend because of it. They arrived today. I really like the Ratbat, and the Ravage isn't as bad in person. Not that I would recommend the set for the Ravage anyway, but it's suprisingly poseable. I have him in a sitting pose which I like. If they would have engineered it so the mid front leg articulation looked more natural he'd be much nicer. I don't even mind the emaciation as much as I do those front legs.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

Sonicron is (still) on sale at BBTS for $20.25 - in case anyone is interested...

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:43 AM

If there are still any left at that price after Botcon, I -may- bite.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

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If there are still any left at that price after Botcon, I -may- bite.


There should be. BBTS has 359 of them right now.

Even at $20, there should be a few left.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Solarstorm @ Apr 12 2012, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 12 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If there are still any left at that price after Botcon, I -may- bite.


There should be. BBTS has 359 of them right now.

Even at $20, there should be a few left.

Did Joel hugely overestimage how popular he thought this figure was going to be or did get a good deal in bulk?

It was a decent price at $29, and I'll more than recommend it at $20. Just be prepared to do some fix-ups. Since I've tightened some of the joints, trimmed some of the excess flash that was causing some transformation issues, and had help from a fellow Allsparker on getting the perfect faction sticker for the chest, he went from "eh, ok." to "Hmm, pretty cool!". I became happy enough with him that I even bought some BTS minions for him.



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