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@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.


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#1 NightViper

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:12 AM

http://www.bigbadtoy...mp;picture=aux1

The attention to detail with the paint ops makes this a lot more awesome that it would otherwise be.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:20 AM

Yeah, I was turned off at this before, but it looks awesome now. I remember his face being kind of wonky, but here it looks crisp and wonderful. I may be able to justify this now.

I mean...Soundwave!

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:51 AM

If I had more that just one tape that turned in to a tape it might be worth in. I think I'm happy with ML Soundwave Classics Overkill Universe Ravage, and Ratbat, and United Rumble and Frenzy.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

The Botcon version is said to be pretty damn bad, toy wise. Even if they improved the QC and articulation from that version, the proportions are still awful. Even lacking tape during feature, the Music Label one is far superior.

QUOTE(Smitty @ Jul 6 2011, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I had more that just one tape that turned in to a tape


A tape that turns into a tape? Holy crap.

Edited by C16, 06 July 2011 - 10:57 AM.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:12 AM

Seems like they have a lot of them to go around, but I'm really wanting to hear the reviews on the regular release version of this before I bite. I'm hoping the bad review was just due to it being a slightly unfinished preview version that was available at Botcon. I can deal with the proportions and the leg articulation being less than ideal, because I do really like the way he looks otherwise, but I can't deal with bad joint tolerances and quality control on top of those things.

I really want to like him, because Music Label Soundwave is super boring.

Edited by Jeremy, 06 July 2011 - 01:32 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:20 AM

I would have been interested, but besides the terrible proportions, and that part sticking out from his back, the flimsiness and backwards knees kinda kill it for me.

It's a shame too, doing some alterations to the transformation, and sacrifice some altmode accuracy, and he could have been great.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:04 PM

I was expecting a blue Unicron figure modded with hedgehog spikes.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:07 PM

And seriously, if anybody has already ordered him, don't skimp on the reviews! Situations like this make reviews crucial to my wallet and my monies.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Jul 6 2011, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was expecting a blue Unicron figure modded with hedgehog spikes.

Now that's a better use of customization fodder Unicron than having him as a combiner base.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:16 PM

I'm astonished at the attention to details.
I'm seriously tempted to get it, he looks to be about the same price as ML Soundwaves last time I checked... except he's way more exciting.

That said, I am hoping some reviews surface to help me decide.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Shanghai @ Jul 6 2011, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
backwards knees kinda kill it for me.


He doesn't have backwards knees. The joints in his thigh are transformation joints, the proper knee joint is further down.

As far as proportions go, they're not ideal, but that's what happens when three-dimensional physicality interacts with a blatantly cheaty design. And really, he's not all that far off from Device Label Blaster, and people give him a pass for whatever reason.

Edited by mx-01 archon, 06 July 2011 - 03:25 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Jul 6 2011, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Shanghai @ Jul 6 2011, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
backwards knees kinda kill it for me.


He doesn't have backwards knees. The joints in his thigh are transformation joints, the proper knee joint is further down.

Oh he does? Guess that reviewer on /toy/ never figured it out.

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As far as proportions go, they're not ideal, but that's what happens when three-dimensional physicality interacts with a blatantly cheaty design. And really, he's not all that far off from Device Label Blaster, and people give him a pass for whatever reason.

Blaster's proportions still look a bit better, maybe because the bulk seems more solid.


Still waiting for the day when we can get a truly definitive Soundwave toy. I love the Generations figure, just he doesn't have the gimmick. And then there's Cybertron, which had the gimmick, and was damn near perfect, except those damn legs.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:43 PM

I heard from people who handled one at Botcon that it was kind of a floppy piece of crap and felt pretty cheap for the price being asked. Can anyone corroborate/refute that?
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:45 PM

Review here:

http://www.tfw2005.c...4-sonicron.html
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 06:15 PM

I'm pretty sure that's the exact same review that everybody else is talking about (with that crap about the backwards knees). No second opinions yet.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 06:22 PM

Seems they could have engineered the thigh closer to the knee, and then fold the lower leg in half to give more bulk. It would also keep the lower legs from looking so wide and thin. Other than that I like it.
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 04:28 PM

I definitely like the new pics. I am uninterested if the review holds true, but if not and the quality and articulation is good, I will buy it.
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Shanghai @ Jul 6 2011, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Jul 6 2011, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was expecting a blue Unicron figure modded with hedgehog spikes.

Now that's a better use of customization fodder Unicron than having him as a combiner base.


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Posted 07 July 2011 - 04:32 PM

That, uh.

That looks a lot worse than the G1 toy.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Jul 6 2011, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was expecting a blue Unicron figure modded with hedgehog spikes.

Ah, good, not just me...



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