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A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

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Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

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CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

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Chuck Norris

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Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

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No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

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Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

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Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

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Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

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Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

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Happy birthday to me!

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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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What news would you have wanted to hear from Botcon 2011?


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#1 Guest_mignash_*

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 04:53 PM

I've heard several people complain (and I'm one of them) about the lack of news, announcements and new products from Botcon 2011.

Do if you had gotten what you wanted (within the reason of possibility), what would the news have been? PCCs coming back with new molds? A promise to finish Classics '84 and '85 characters in the coming year? Season 4 of Animated signed for release as a comic? Simon Furman greenlit for Marvel Transformers issue 81+. New partnership with Hasbro and igear?

Edited by mignash, 07 June 2011 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:02 PM

For me I would have liked to have seen some more yet to be revealed figures, but it is what it is.

I'm really happy Fun Publications showed their mockups for Drift, Runabout, and Runamuck and not just the G1 figures (for R & R) and RtS Wheeljack in a photo like some of the previous ones.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:11 PM

I am kinda in the same boat about the figures, but I guess alot of factors kind of explain why there whern't that many new reveals. These are all my thoughs on what made this Botcon seem lackluster compared to others, and again, my thoughts are as a non-attendee who uses Botcon as a source for upcoming toy information primarily. I think if Botcon had happened a few months sooner, or a few months later, there would have been alot more toy info.

- The movies are certified smash hits, and about 100 new toys just hit shelves a month before the con. Why preview stuff we already know is on it's way?

- Prime is established as a solid cartoon already, no new TV reboots in the emminent future. They showed us the Prime toys as a dedicated toyline, which may have been more then we should have expected considering Prime toys where rumored to be Generations filler.

- Amazon Unicron and a in-package shot of MP Rodimus where both unexpected, especially so soon, that gives the elitist collector market some hope icon-waspy.gif

- I would have liked actual test shots of upcoming Generations toys, to help me really beleive they are coming back shortly. But if they knew they still needed to distribute the standing stock and exisitng figures, they might not be focusing on tooling new figures for the line yet.

- The 3rd party companies are all hitting thier stride, some of those showings where amazing. It's almost unfair in a way, as a 3rd party can bulk up or paint up it's 'deluxe' sized toys as much as they need to, because they choose thier pricing. Hasbro can't do anything that would significantly raise the cost of a figure above the rest of it's assortment.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:29 PM

Realistically? I would have wanted to have seen more upcoming DotM molds. I wanted to see a LOT more new mold Cyberverse commanders and at least a few more waves of deluxes and voyagers. I know they were holding some stuff back until after the movie but I would have rather them not done that. This whole business of hiding Soundwave, Dino, and Que from us seems excessive.

Oh, and Frenzy, Rumble, and Windcharger snuck into a box set somewhere. Maybe a teaser or something suggesting some upcoming Generations characters they are actively working on.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:30 PM

Jhiaxus. For me that's pretty much just perpetually one of those things I always want to see done "right."

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:54 PM

Transformers: Disambiguation.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:26 PM

Generations Leader-Class Fortress Maximus, first quarter 2012.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:41 PM

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I would have liked to have seen the upcoming DOTM toys that they kept hidden. However, we'll probably see at least some of those in stores before SDCC.

More PCCs would have been great, but I didn't expect any. I am a bit disappointed that we never got an Omega Supreme-based PCC that Siebenaler seemed interested in last Botcon, but whatever.

I'm really surprised we didn't at least see the next wave of Generations.

I would have liked to have seen at least one TFP toy that hasn't already been shown. I guess we could see some of that at SDCC (like how they showed a ton of Animated stuff at SDCC 2007).

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:28 PM

I was hoping for reveals of more leader class DOTM toys.
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:26 PM

Anything at all about a Generations line that is supposedly, but unfortunately not likely, continuing. Pretty sure Paramount didn't limit the info on that one, but I'm sure there is an excuse - because there always is.
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:35 PM

So I really like the movie style for the movie, but I don't care for it as toys...so I would have loved, say a Hasbro, um Impactor. or new Overlord ect.. But I guess I wonder at the complete lack of new figure announcements, is Hasbro finally, really, holding out on us?

Every year they get leaked, then they say no more, then they show us stuff for the next year anyway. Did they finally get smart?

I say yes.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:43 PM

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Oh, and Frenzy, Rumble, and Windcharger snuck into a box set somewhere.


This really would have been all the news I needed.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 10:56 PM

I was very surprised not to see any Generations, since it's continuing but we have no idea what's next beyond what's out.
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 04:55 AM

Yes, I'll join the group and say anything, even just verbal hints, as to WHAT Generations toys would be on shelves through the end of the year. Saying it would continue with no new solicitations made and no protos shown is just both frustrating and suspicious. Prototype pics are Great, but even a bit of talk about who and where they wanted to go would have done it.

If I could choose: Trailbreaker and Hoist (as they once previewed Sunstreaker and Sideswipe together), Sunstorm, Rhinox and a handful of surprises (let's just throw out Scrounge, Chromdome, Jhiaxus, Aerialbot Skydive, Lightspeed, and G1 Elita 1 as the sort of names I like but really I'm pretty open to any cool surprises here.)

Also an Exclusive (TRU, Target, Walmart I don't care) box set for the holidays of Windcharger, Rumble and Frenzy would have MADE the con all on its own.


ZacWilliam, even more G1-ish DotM stuff like Guzzle would have helped, but what I wanted was even the littlest tidbit of Gen news.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:07 AM

Any word on Generations other that it's not over, we already knew it was going to go on, but it would be nice to know who was in the next wave, or if they are just going to reship all the old waves again or what. At least we got to see the three pack.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:16 AM

Is DotM Air Raid going to be released outside Japan or what?

Seriously, that's all I wanted to know, and we got nothing about him

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:29 AM

All the ones in the first post, plus:

- Someone asking Hasbro about what they think about 3d party TFs like Igear's 'Not-Ironhide'. If only just for the awkward glances between the attending Igear guys and Aaron.

- Why Hasbro seems to be headstrong about repeating the mistake they made with Animated, as in, airing a cartoon without any toys on the market (for almost a year, since Prime toys are only coming in the Autumn). Have they learned nothing?

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:37 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Jun 8 2011, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any word on Generations other that it's not over, we already knew it was going to go on, but it would be nice to know who was in the next wave, or if they are just going to reship all the old waves again or what. At least we got to see the three pack.

Even reshipping old waves would be nice. I've missed out on a few of the end of line figures due to movie distro killing generations/rts distro, and wouldn't mind a shot at getting them at msrp.

I'll agree, more Generations stuff would have interested me. As it is, for the next year I'm looking at a handful of movie figures, then...nada. I guess it's good the third parties are upping their offerings, I'm going to have a bit of spare disposable income in my transforming toy budget in the coming year.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Jun 8 2011, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All the ones in the first post, plus:

- Someone asking Hasbro about what they think about 3d party TFs like Igear's 'Not-Ironhide'. If only just for the awkward glances between the attending Igear guys and Aaron.


Umm...no.

Of course they're *aware* of them but they probably can't comment on them officially because to do so means that Hasbro as a company is aware of them. That could be used against them in an intellectual property suit if they decided to take these third-party manufacturers to court. In fact, the third-party companies could even bring up that they were allowed to show their "infringing" upcoming product at an official, Hasbro-sponsored convention without consequence to demonstrate that Hasbro was not only aware of the product but took a passive approach to the matter and did nothing about it.

However, if you were joking, just disregard everything I just said.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE(StarSaber @ Jun 8 2011, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course they're *aware* of them but they probably can't comment on them officially because to do so means that Hasbro as a company is aware of them. That could be used against them in an intellectual property suit if they decided to take these third-party manufacturers to court. In fact, the third-party companies could even bring up that they were allowed to show their "infringing" upcoming product at an official, Hasbro-sponsored convention without consequence to demonstrate that Hasbro was not only aware of the product but took a passive approach to the matter and did nothing about it.


All of the above. And, didn't Hasbro "officially" comment on them (albeit generally) at last year's Botcon? Or was that the year before last?

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