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@  Msol : (24 May 2016 - 01:01 AM)

So what's the over/under for when beetleman is banned?

@  Telly : (24 May 2016 - 12:26 AM)

is the christmas/holiday special in the latest mtmte trade? or atleast mtmte's segment of that comic

@  Plokatron : (23 May 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Robotic warriors give it their all! Fighting disguised till the victor stands tall!

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 05:12 PM)

He tried to introduce himself once, but then he was compelled to kidnap himself and nobody's seen him since.

@  Paladin : (23 May 2016 - 04:53 PM)

wait, what about Candlejac

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:45 PM)

All legends are true, except for the ones that aren't.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (23 May 2016 - 04:39 PM)

The Nightitme Secret Aardvark exists?! I though it was just a legend!

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:28 PM)

Well, maybe. That depends on you, really. What you do behind closed doors is none of my business. I'm not the NSA.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (23 May 2016 - 04:24 PM)

Your nights shall be completely shame-free, however.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2016 - 04:16 PM)

Nope. You will bear the shame of this for all of your days.

@  Telly : (23 May 2016 - 04:00 PM)

can i delete this shout?

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2016 - 02:58 PM)

..goes on forever, forever, forever my...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2016 - 12:58 AM)

And a partridge in the song that doesn't end, yes it...

@  Paladin : (22 May 2016 - 06:52 PM)

just as Killamanjaro rises above the Serenghetti....

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2016 - 05:41 PM)

Stayin' alive! Stayin' alive!

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 05:21 PM)

Everybody walk the dinosaur!

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2016 - 05:14 PM)

Bombin' the floor! Bombin' the floor!

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 May 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Breakin the law, breakin the law! :::air guitars:::

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2016 - 04:09 PM)

I'm watching plenty of TV, but I'm doing it all through the internet.

@  tffan01 : (22 May 2016 - 03:38 PM)

no.

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2016 - 03:03 PM)

is anyone watching more web original shows and streamed TV shows than actual TV channels?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2016 - 10:49 AM)

I wanted to charge my book, but couldn't cause my brother was charging his cigarette... the future is stupid.

@  Pennpenn : (22 May 2016 - 09:05 AM)

I hate that situation where you spend ages to find something, then realize it isn't charged, but you can't find the charging cable.

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 09:00 AM)

Only cartoons I keep up with are RID2015, Rescue Bots, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Rick & Morty

@  Locoman : (22 May 2016 - 08:59 AM)

no, I don't really watch cartoons on tv no more

@  tffan01 : (22 May 2016 - 03:54 AM)

@Locoman, have you watched the cartoon I was talking about (Supernoobs) though?

@  Telly : (21 May 2016 - 10:34 PM)

"Chaos is bad for business, y'see." depends on the kind of business youre in...

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:34 PM)

Unless we're talking about the guy from Hunger Games, President Snow. He has feet.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:33 PM)

Snow doesn't have feet. It's just piles of frozen water.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:29 PM)

you wish, bud. let's see those bastards operate under six feet of snow

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:28 PM)

What I got out of that was that Canada really wants to have a plague of locusts unleashed upon them.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:25 PM)

y'see, under canadian law all broadcasting corporations operate under a mandate that at least 40% of the content they broadcast must be Canadian content. Naturally, this applies to kid's cartoon channels as well, which is a fairly niche market these days. So animators slap together very cheaply animated flash cartoons and air them in the daytime hours to fill the quota. Hence endless reruns of Johnny Test, Almost Naked Animals, etc.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 May 2016 - 09:25 PM)

Chaos is bad for business, y'see.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:17 PM)

You're a criminal mastermind. Shouldn't you want to wreak havoc?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 May 2016 - 09:16 PM)

You really want to be responsible for the creation of giant radioactive moose?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:13 PM)

Well, I didn't wanna have to do this, but it looks like we have to nuke Canada.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 09:12 PM)

Johnny Test isn't even the worst of it? Mother of God...

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 09:04 PM)

But in Canada, Johnny Test is just one of many terrible flash cartoons. It's not even the worst one.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 08:49 PM)

Pft. Cartoon Network aired Johnny Test TEN times a day for a loooooong time.

@  The Doctor Who : (21 May 2016 - 08:01 PM)

Mayhem Hangouts is Go! I repeat the loonies are converging on Google! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

@  Foffy the Sheep : (21 May 2016 - 07:52 PM)

My condolences. It's always sad to hear of the death of a loved one...or someone's sanity.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 07:44 PM)

Back in the days when I watched TFP on TV, they sometimes aired it six or seven times a day.

@  Locoman : (21 May 2016 - 07:44 PM)

You don't know the pain of Johnny Test until you live in Canada.

@  tffan01 : (21 May 2016 - 07:36 PM)

Anyone watched the piece of shit called the Supernoobs on Cartoon Network? It somehow managed to be worse than Johnny Test or Uncle Grandpa. It's jokes are cliche, the show is boring with stereotypical characters.

@  Confuzor : (21 May 2016 - 06:59 PM)

No euphemism. Just old farts doing stuff they shouldn't.

@  Paladin : (21 May 2016 - 06:54 PM)

unless "bounce house" is a euphemism for somethign else....

@  Confuzor : (21 May 2016 - 06:14 PM)

30 year old bodies were not meant for Bounce Houses. Oof.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2016 - 04:31 PM)

Shouldn't Sideshow be a different article?

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 04:19 PM)

That's just my opinion, if you want a better viewpoint, go ask in the TFWiki thread.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 May 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Yeah, you could probably go a bit more in depth about Sideshow Collectibles.


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#1 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:09 AM

For reasons I'd rather not get into, I don't currently have a valid driver's license. I have an expired learner's permit (which is sufficient ID for most purposes) and a Temporary Driving Certificate which together allow me to drive, and I'm supposed to receive my card "soon." However, I have a plane trip also coming up "soon" and I cannot assume it'll get here in time. My permit is expired by too long to be used as an ID for flying, and the temporary certificate doesn't have a photo for some reason so it's no good either.

So now I have to figure out some alternative form of ID. The person whose fault it is that I'm in this situation in the first place is confident that this sort of thing happens all the time and surely there are ways around it. The TSA website is almost hilariously nonspecific about this sort of situation:

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We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won?t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone?s identity, like using publicly available databases.

Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane.


Does anyone know what I'm actually in for, and/or what sort of things I should be looking into to try to handle this?

(Yes, I know I shouldn't have left this until the last minute. I didn't want to. Long story that, again, I'd rather not get into.)

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#2 Adam G

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:13 AM

Do you have a birth certificate? As a Canadian if I get in a plane I'm almost always going to the states, so I need a passport. If you got yourself a passport, even if you're not traveling internationally, that would work.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:19 AM

I'm pretty sure a passport would actually take longer to get.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ May 26 2011, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm pretty sure a passport would actually take longer to get.

You can expedite a passport and get it same day but you have to make an appointment, show necessity and pay a couple hundred bucks (it also helps to have a passport office in you town or nearby).

Barring that, I'd say a birth certificate plus your expired ids with pictures and just be prepared for "enhanced" screening.
 
 
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:30 AM

You are in for a cavity search following an extensive pat down.

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Seriously, get a government ID with a picture on it. They have them other than Driver's licenses.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:37 AM

Expedited passport is really going to be your best bet. You can expect to pay through the nose for it.

Barring that, I would recommend arriving about half an hour (or a full hour, depending on the size of the airport) earlier than you originally planned. If possible, bring something (temp driving certificate perhaps? If not, a utility bill) that ties your name to your current address. Be prepared to wait a lot as folks discuss the matter with their supervisors, or search through those databases. Be patient, and cooperate fully.
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#7 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ May 26 2011, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, get a government ID with a picture on it. They have them other than Driver's licenses.

Around here those also come from the DMV office, and as such I'd still have to wait for them to mail it to me. NC DMV offices don't have their own card printers anymore apparently.

The flight isn't international, so I don't know whether I'd be able to manage "necessity" for an expedited passport. I'll definitely look into that, though.

The temporary driving certificate has everything on it that a real license has except for the photo, so there is that. I'm also employed by a state university and have an ID card from there--it wouldn't be valid ID on its own, I don't think, but it couldn't hurt.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ May 26 2011, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm also employed by a state university and have an ID card from there--it wouldn't be valid ID on its own, I don't think, but it couldn't hurt.


This is good! icon-hotrod.gif Use it, it's state-issued.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:19 AM

You just need two forms of ID, one with a picture of you on it.

Last November, I actually made it to airport security and found out at the last second realized I had left my driver's license at home. They let me through, I dug around in my wallet and found my work badge with my photo, and also my social security card. No problem.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:33 AM

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Likely a strip search...but hey, maybe a date if it goes well icon-fire.gif

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:07 AM

I think you should get your hands on some sort of current ID. Maybe something like a Nondriver ID card. They expire, like a license - but are pretty much only for writing checks or taking flights. They're also far easier to get, than a Passport.

So unless your flight is taking you outside the US, it should be all you need.

I happen to know, as I can't drive (for health related reasons) & its all I need for a flight. I think I even had to renew mine, about 1 week prior to the flight. Easy to pick up at the DMV - and at least for me, it was just a walk-in visit (my ID had expired just that year, and didn't notice until shortly before the flight).

Why put yourself into a potential fix at the airport? Just get something like this & at least you should be covered.

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(Also, I vaguely recall that there's a posted message stating that if you don't have a current ID w/ photo, you won't be allowed to board a plane. At all.)

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ May 26 2011, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you should get your hands on some sort of current ID. Maybe something like a Nondriver ID card. They expire, like a license - but are pretty much only for writing checks or taking flights. They're also far easier to get, than a Passport.

So unless your flight is taking you outside the US, it should be all you need.

I happen to know, as I can't drive (for health related reasons) & its all I need for a flight. I think I even had to renew mine, about 1 week prior to the flight. Easy to pick up at the DMV - and at least for me, it was just a walk-in visit (my ID had expired just that year, and didn't notice until shortly before the flight).

Why put yourself into a potential fix at the airport? Just get something like this & at least you should be covered.

Kevin
(Also, I vaguely recall that there's a posted message stating that if you don't have a current ID w/ photo, you won't be allowed to board a plane. At all.)

The problem with this suggestion is that, as I mentioned a few posts ago, North Carolina DMV offices don't distribute ID cards (driver or otherwise) anymore, instead mailing them out from a centralized location in Raleigh. If I asked for a non-driver ID card now, there's absolutely no reason it would arrive any sooner than the new learner's permit I'm already waiting on.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ May 26 2011, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem with this suggestion is that, as I mentioned a few posts ago, North Carolina DMV offices don't distribute ID cards (driver or otherwise) anymore, instead mailing them out from a centralized location in Raleigh. If I asked for a non-driver ID card now, there's absolutely no reason it would arrive any sooner than the new learner's permit I'm already waiting on.


Sorry, did not read every post. Still, I'd recommend that you try & get the ball rolling, even if they can't help you. Maybe they'd be able to expidite the process or offer a temporary card. (And you could always luck out & get your new ID just before your flight.)

And lets just say they let you board in NC. Remember you need an ID to come back, too. Your gamble isn't that they'll pass you once, but twice. Worth doing all you can to avoid it.

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Edited by Kevin S, 26 May 2011 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:47 PM

I had to fly from Indy to Altanta once, and didn't realize until I got to the security checkpoint that my driver's license had expired. I was asked for an alternate form of ID, and the screener accepted my Social Security card. I had to go through the extra screening, though. Of course, this was before they started the current "enhanced" screenings, so I don't know if if would fly now.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:20 PM

I found out the hard way that my license had expired last time we flew to Pasadena for Botcon, but I don't remember it being a big deal even though I was momentarily freaking out that it would be when the check-in guy pointed it out. I had been driving around with an expired license for a little over a month since my birthday is in late April.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:37 PM

I bet your old learner's permit will be fine. It's still a photo ID.

The last time I flew, I got all the way to the gate before I realized I had passed through two security checkpoints holding a second copy of my wife's boarding pass instead of my own. And they'd checked my ID with the pen and everything. And we don't even have the same last name.

So allow a bit of extra time just in case, but bring your old ID and don't lose sleep over it. The TSA people don't actually care about these things.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:30 AM

Please read the third and fourth posts in this thread.
 
 
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:33 AM

An expired driver's license should still be a valid form of ID. All the fact that it's expired means is that you can't legally drive with it anymore. It still contains your personal information...

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

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Please read the third and fourth posts in this thread.

That would require it to not be a bot.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 12:11 PM

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An expired driver's license should still be a valid form of ID. All the fact that it's expired means is that you can't legally drive with it anymore. It still contains your personal information...


That's not quite true.

At work, we cannot take an expired ID for check cashing, nor will Western Union allow us to use it for money transfers or receiving.

Mind you, this isn't the airport, but the point is that a number of places will cease accepting it for various things once it hits the expiration. (If they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, that is.)
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