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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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Posted 01 May 2011 - 01:52 PM

2011-07-21: Added Action Masters Elite Turbomaster, Double Punch, Omega Spreem and Windmill. Also Micromasters Skystalker and Cannon transport.

2011-06-14: Added my friend FantasiTF's toys - complete AM Optimus Prime, Turbomasters Flash, Boss, Hurricane and Scorch, and Predator Snare.

2011-05-25: Added PCC Smolder/Chopster, HFTD Insecticon, ROTF Legends black Starscream, ROTF G1 color Mixmaster.

2011-05-18: Added MISB Animated Leader Shadow Blade Megatron.

2011-05-17: Added a G1 Wheeljack and G1 Thunderclash that I'm selling for a friend.

Howdy all!

Firstly, about me... I have been trading with foreigners for, well, let's see... more then 8 years now, I think. I mostly did it on TFW2005, so my feedback is mostly there as well, but I have been trading with people on Transfans and the NTFA too. I have some small amount of feedback here as well, as I have only joined a year ago. Oh and... to avoid "oh you are not in the USA?" remarks after I send shipping costs, yes, I live in Hungary. That's middle/eastern Europe.

My TFW2005 feedback; My NTFA feedback; My Allspark Feedback.

So, I decided to post my things for trade here on the Allspark, but it's all due to a special occasion. I have never bought a single Botcon toy yet, and they never really interested me (apart from G2 Breakdown), that is... until now. As I live in Hungary, and am no member of TFCC, shipping for those toys from their store would cost me an arm and a leg. So, I decided to throw in some rare European TFs for a trade offer for the Botcon Stunticon package. And I have listed the rest of my stuff as well, just in case.

You can reach me through PM's or - I'd prefer it as my inbox gets full fast - through my mail: bbshockwave12@gmail.com

What you need to know:

- Seeing as we are talking about such a high value trade, please, only PM/email me if you are A: serious, B: have at least some feedback on some TF board. I will not trade with users without feedback, sorry, I have been ripped off twice in the past that way, there won't be a third time.
- As we are talking about a fair trade, you can choose from the items below as long as their collective price equals that of the Botcon Non-attendee package, which is, according to my informations, 315$. (Please correct me if I am wrong). If what you need is less then this amount, I'll pay the rest in USD via Paypal. Naturally, if you wish to trade for more then this value, that's no problem - I need quite a few other toys for my collection, including any possible Animated Botcon figures not yet revealed. Prices are also up for negotiation, though narrowly so - I tried to adjust the values of my trades as per the most recent prices.
- Please note that all the European exclusives are currently "on hold" for the purpose of this trade. So don't ask me to sell them or trade them for something else... After I have the Stunticons, any remaining items will be for trade and sale normally.
- You can approach me regarding the trade/sale of the non-European exclusives, naturally. I only accept payments via Paypal, though.

Now for the toys!

GENERATION 1 European Exclusives

G1 Overlord loose 250$



Description: Has three main parts (upper body, tank/legs, small jet). Jet's cockpit window is missing (not broken). Upper body Powermaster functions work smoothly. Has yellowing on the top side of the arms. Stickers are intact and in good shape. Pegs fixing the wings in place are unbroken, but some are cracked (common problem with this toy), wings still hold. Tank part has yellow window, both ramps, and cannon, the claws on the grappling arm are broken off though.
Also comes with Mega and Giga, both in good shape, with only light chrome wear (Mega has some yellowing) Included also are Overlord's giant handgun, and the tank turret.






G1 European Action Master Elite Turbomaster 80$
G1 European Action Master Elite Double Punch 35$
G1 European Action Master Elite Omega Spreem 40$
G1 European Action Master Elite Windmill 25$

- Turbomaster: In excellent shape, no yellowing or paint wear. Button-action works 30% of the time, no insignia. Has both removable side thrusters on legs, as well as one propeller (slightly yellowed)
- Double Punch: Has slight damage on top of upper body (where torso halves connect). Minimal paint wear on crotch. Has insignia, button-action doesn't work.
- Omega Spreem: Paint wear on face, button-action works perfectly (See video HERE). Insignia is present, but faded. There is a chance I might be able to get his weapon too.
- Windmill: One bomb/landing gear is missing. Button-action doesn't work. Insignia is present, no paint wear.

G1 Turbomaster Boss - with launcher and rocket 25$
G1 Turbomaster Flash - robot only 15$
G1 Turbomaster Hurricane - robot only 5$
G1 Turbomaster Scorch - with launcher and rocket 25$
G1 Predator Snare - robot only 10$

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These belong to my friend FantasiTF, hence only for sale.


G1 Rescue Force "Killbison" - 100% complete 30$

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Silver weapon/face version. Has both claws and claw holder. In great shape, stickers on arms present.

G1 Rescue Force "Drillhorn" - robot only 10$

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In good shape, has stickers. Left horn/ear on helmet is broken. Silver face version.

G1 Action Master Slicer (robot only) 30$

In excellent shape, tight joints, no paint wear. Has Con insignia. (Picture coming soon.)

G1 Action Master Charger (robot only) 20$



In excellent shape, tight joints, no paint wear. No con insignia.

G1 European Action Master Take-Off with Screech 40$
G1 European Action Master Elite Turbomaster 25$
G1 European Action Master Thundercracker 8$




-Take-Off: In excellent shape, tight joints and no paint wear. Has gun and AM Partner Screech, button-action works.
-Turbomaster: Has great joints and no paintwear, but no con insignia, and the light purple parts are yellowed in some places. Button-action doesn't work.
-Thundercracker: The infamous neon recolor of the Seeker. Toy generally stands well, but has lots of surface wear, scratches and such, some parts were glued and taped previously.

G1 European Action Master Circuit - robot and Exo-Suit, 95% complete 40$
G1 European Action Master Motorized Exo-Suit Rumbler 35$
G1 European Action Master Circuit - exo-suit only 5$



-Circuit: Robot plus race-car/exo-suit. In great shape, robot's joints are tight and no paint wear. Missing only the green 'stick' weapon. No stickers though.
-Rumbler: Robot is in excellent shape, tight joints and hardly any paint wear, has Autobot insignia as well. Exo-suit has red bar, battery cover, blue side parts (small yellow flap from bottom is missing) as well as all stickers intact. Rolling action still works, I tried (works with two AA batteries).
-Circuit 2: Only the exo-suit, with broken off spoiler and right steers

G1 Turbomaster Flash 20$

In excellent shape, has all stickers. No gun or rockets. This is a VERY hard to find toy intact, due to the clear plastic shoulders breaking off very often. In all my years of collecting, this is the second one I found in one piece. (Image coming soon).

Other Generation 1 Toys

G1 Wheeljack 65$

Robot mode; Car mode.

I am selling this toy for a Hungarian friend, he is totally reliable seller and I have known him for about 8 years now... trouble is, he doesn't speak english, hence he asked me to help him sell this.
WJ is in excellent shape, has all stickers and hardly any wear. He comes with both rocket launchers and both spoiler parts, as well as both 'wings'. Only issue is that the right knob on the arm holding the spoiler in place broke off.

G1 Roadblock outer shell 4$



Great shape, with stickers, no shovel part.

G1 Crossblades inner robot 5$ (No stickers, good shape)

G1 Brawl 5$ - Vortex SOLD!

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Has stickers, good joints. European classics 1990 version (all-plastic).

G1 Topspin 4$

Great shape, no chrome wear. Pull-back action works.

G1 Doubledealer with Skar 22$
G1 Waverider shell - 3$

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-Doubledealer - Yellowed, with rusty screws. Joints are overtly tight, but can be transformed. Comes with Powermaster Skar and front part of the rocket. Previous owner has painted Skar's body turqoise and Doubledealer's face has a beard, I guess they can be removed.
-Waverider - Nice shape, no paint wear. Sadly, previous owner painted him over with green and red stripes.
-Fangry SOLD
-Dreadwind SOLD

G1 Micromaster Growl 2$ (No gun, slightly dirty)
G1 Micromaster Combiner Slide 3$ (one arm slightly loose)

G1 Micromaster Skystalker 4$ (loose legs, worn stickers/paint)

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G1 Micromaster Combiner Cannon Transport 5$ (rear part plus 1x cannon)

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Action masters Optimus Prime 70$

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Without Optimus. Belongs to my friend FantasiTF, hence only for sale.

G1 Action Master Axer 99% complete 25$

Axer himself in great shape, no paint wear. Has all parts (sidecar, 2xrockets, shield), gun and sidecar connector are broken though. (Picture coming soon)

G1 Action Master Rollout 6$
G1 Action Master Bumblebee with gun 5$
G1 Action Master Tyrannitron 2$
G1 Action Master Prowl - Attack Cycle 5$

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- Action Master Inferno - SOLD
- Rollout: slightly yellowed, but in excellent shape, tight joints.
- Bumblebee: Very loose and slightly worn, but has handgun.
- Tyrannitron: Missing tail.
- Prowl: basic body of cycle. Has removable shield part, fuel tank cover. Slightly yellowed.

G1 AM Axer Cycle 7$
G1 AM Blaster weapon 5$

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Both in excellent shape, spring-action works. Axer has the shield part and all stickers.

G1 Action Master Over-Run 7$
G1 AM Wheeljack car 3$


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-Over-Run: Has copter body and two guns. Robot is worn, face is scratched.
-Wheeljack: Missing doors and rear engine/gun.
-Megatron's Neutro-Fusion Tank turret SOLD

- Generation 2

G2 Cyberjet Hooligan (x2) 4$ /5$

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- Both of them in great shape, with all stickers intact. Left hand at the orange part is loose for both (common problem of this mold). The left one (cheaper) is missing the tailfins.

G2 Autoroller Dirtbag 6$

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In excellent shape, automatic transformation works well

G2 Rotorbot Leadfoot 3$
G2 Rotorcon Ransack 5$
G2 Rotorcon Powerdive 7.5$
G2 Rotorcon Powerdive 2$

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Leadfoot: Average shape, with stickers.
Ransack: Has all stickers, very nice shape, but missing the wings. Has trigger mechanism and one propeller. Propeller's flaps are broken except on one place.
Powerdive 1: Excellent shape, has all stickers, has tail as well. Comes with trigger mechanism and one intact propeller.
Powerdive 2: Body only. Has cockpit.

- Beast Wars

BW Tripredacus Ramhorn 3$
BW Snarl 4$

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-Ramhorn: Left arm missing from elbow. Right arm and chest half taken from a KO.
-Snarl: Excellent shape, missing tail/gun.
-Armordillo [SOLD]


RID

RID Sideburn (red) MOC 30$

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Excellent shape, fully complete. Has some slight paint wear on front bumper only. Has backer card and instructions (not pictured).

Armada

Armada Emergency Mini-Con team, loose 15$

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All three members, in great shape.

Energon

Energon Cliffjumper MIB 20$

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Complete, with box and instructions.

Cybertron

Galaxy Force Sonic Bomber MIB 50$

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Wing Saber's japanese version. Hardly used, complete, instructions and box are in excellent shape.

Cybertron Deluxe Red Alert MOC 15$
Cybertron Deluxe Downshift MOC 15$

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Both complete and mint, with backer cards, instructions, and front box artwork.

Cybertron Legends Optimus Prime MOC 5$

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Classics-Universe-Henkei-Generations

Classics Mini-Con Boltflash 5$

Thunderwing repainted in Gobot Leader-1's colors. Loose, in great shape.

Henkei Cyclonus MOC 40$

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Complete, with instructions and backer card. In great shape.

Generations Thrust MOC 12$

Complete, with card and instructions and front artwork panels.

Generations Dirge 7$

Complete, with card and instructions and front artwork panels. Has Henkei Dirge's wings 'transplanted', the front small wings have broken off and have been glued. They can still rotate in their sockets, but tend to be loose.

2007 Movie and ROTF

ROTF Voyager G1 color Mixmaster - loose complete 20$

Complete, mint. 'Stoner happy' face version.

ROTF Deluxe Dirge - loose complete 15$

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Movie Deluxe Longarm MOC 10$

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Has card, bubble, instructions. Will trade for the Hoist repaint.

ROTF Deluxe Rampage - loose complete SOLD
ROTF Scout Ransack - loose complete 7$
HFTD Scout Insecticon - loose, has 2xleft wing 4$

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ROTF NEST Alliance Legends Bumblebee - from Shadow Striker 2-pack 5$
ROTF NEST Alliance Legends black Starscream - from Smokescreen 2-pack 5$

PCC Smolder with Chopster - MOC 10$

I have lots of other non-TF toys for trade as well, including: Gobots, Dino Riders, Realm of the Claw, MOTU/He-Man New Adventures, Gargoyles, Microman Blockman, Lego MInifigures, D&D Miniatures. PM/email me if you are interested.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 21 July 2011 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:06 PM

Bumped up. Offer still stands!

Added G1 Thunderclash and G1 Wheeljack.
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:26 AM

Added MISB Animated Shadow Blade Megatron.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 05:17 AM

Added PCC Smolder/Chopster, HFTD Insecticon, ROTF Legends black Starscream, ROTF G1 color Mixmaster.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 12:36 AM

Added my friend FantasiTF's toys - complete AM Optimus Prime, Turbomasters Flash, Boss, Hurricane and Scorch, and Predator Snare.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:43 PM

Added Action Masters Elite Turbomaster, Double Punch, Omega Spreem and Windmill. Also Micromasters Skystalker and Cannon transport.
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