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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 11:24 AM

Not seen a topic about this so far.

http://www.amazon.co...S...9284&sr=8-1

Looks good. I'm glad its not just a book.

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#2 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 03:15 AM

I'd like to. Remains to be seen if I get my wish, however.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 03:48 AM

If I can, yes.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 03:51 AM

What exactly do you get
QUOTE(Xaaron @ Nov 21 2011, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TF Fans draw so many lines, it looks like a frackin' zebra.


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Posted 23 April 2011 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE(CAD-BANE @ Apr 23 2011, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What exactly do you get



a book full of awesome!

i got my advance copy a few weeks ago and its quite a neat book! lots of neat stuff in there icon-fire.gif

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 05:57 AM

QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Apr 23 2011, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(CAD-BANE @ Apr 23 2011, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What exactly do you get



a book full of awesome!

i got my advance copy a few weeks ago and its quite a neat book! lots of neat stuff in there icon-fire.gif


Are you at liberty to give us any details? Maybe a rundown of the table of contents or something?

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#7 dcjosh

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 06:23 AM

well the interactive media is what surprised and impressed me the most really. i wasnt expecting a page of tech spec repros, a small Optimus Prime animation cel, etc [as seen in the pics above]

but there ARE a few other neat things in there. I havent given it a thorough read-through yet but it looks pretty comprehensive!



as far as a little rundown of the book? i'll have to see!

its a really neat book though! its interesting to see something that focuses more on the TF brand overall and not just strictly the "mythos" like the past Ultimate Guide book and others like that

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:41 AM

Sounds mighty interesting Joshua

Who's the publisher BTW, is it DK, IDW?
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TF Fans draw so many lines, it looks like a frackin' zebra.


#9 dcjosh

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:54 AM

hm...its not IDW, I know that much!

i cant remember off-hand but i'm pretty sure somebody on here probably can icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:31 AM


I'm definately gonna get it.

I still wish they'd included a repo of the S.T.A.R.S. base though. Seems the perfect chance.


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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:58 AM

I'm going to try to. Looks very interesting and full of goodies.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 09:33 AM


Looking at the Amazon description..... did they shorten the book by about 100 pages, or am I misremembering the old announcements?

I'm definitely getting it regardless. Very interesting to hear that the book is more about the brand than the mythos.... I'm not sure how exactly they could pull that off. I mean, they have to talk about the story elements, prehistory, and characters in SOME level, don't they?

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Apr 23 2011, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking at the Amazon description..... did they shorten the book by about 100 pages, or am I misremembering the old announcements?

I'm definitely getting it regardless. Very interesting to hear that the book is more about the brand than the mythos.... I'm not sure how exactly they could pull that off. I mean, they have to talk about the story elements, prehistory, and characters in SOME level, don't they?


I'm thinking the difference is that the previous encyclopedia was a reference that treated the Transformers as if they were real, whereas this book talks about the brand, including the characters, toys, cartoons, etc.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:36 AM

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Sounds mighty interesting Joshua

Who's the publisher BTW, is it DK, IDW?


According to the Amazon page, the book is published by Abrams.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 05:21 PM

I've just pre-ordered it. Looks interesting.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE(Nevermore @ Apr 23 2011, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(CAD-BANE @ Apr 23 2011, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds mighty interesting Joshua

Who's the publisher BTW, is it DK, IDW?


According to the Amazon page, the book is published by Abrams.



yup! its Abrams. just checked

on the inside cover it says "Transformers Vault: The complete Transformers Universe showcasing rare collectibles and memorabilia"


and it DOES touch on the mytho's but its not entirely centered around it like the other books are. [the mythos are part of what makes the brand afterall]

but that should help give you an idea icon-fire.gif

its a REALLY cool book though!
nice and big and hardcover [and the "case" it comes in is pretty hefty too!]
a very quality book!

Id've bought it if i wouldnt've gotten comps icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:55 PM

It sounds like this is a really good book, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.

Josh, by any chance, was there much (or any) material on Beast Wars or Beast Machines? Or was it mostly focused on G1 and the movies?
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:26 PM

I've had this pre-ordered since Dec.!!! I'm excited. I think this is the one Amazon said would ship a week earlier than expected. I have much pre-ordered so I'm hoping this is the one!

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 01:38 AM

QUOTE(Timelord Megs @ Apr 23 2011, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sounds like this is a really good book, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.

Josh, by any chance, was there much (or any) material on Beast Wars or Beast Machines? Or was it mostly focused on G1 and the movies?


gah, i cant remember exactly how much time was spent on the Beast series' but i know that they're in there for sure!


this book covers EVERY series [and even has a mention of Dark of the Moon]

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 02:32 AM

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Josh, I'm not seeing anything especially rare so far, apart from the countache proto. What other rare stuff is in the book?

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