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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg


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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:11 PM

So this story struck me as oddball, even coming from China. Apparently, the ministries have decided that no stories depicting "fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking."

Now, if I'm not mistaken.. that's pretty much everything that's on TV today, to some degree. But beyond the scope of the ban, I'm not sure what China feels it will be getting out of keeping that stuff off TV other than the simple fact that every aspect that is covered in their ban involves the imagination.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:15 PM

Did the ending of Lost really tick them off that badly?
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:18 PM

Probably one of those "imagining better societies implies this one isn't perfect" things.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:30 PM

Good on China for reminding us every now and then they're a brutal, authoritarian dictatorship.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:32 PM

Can't help but wonder if something like this could affect future product and media here: toys, TV shows, books, movies, what have you. China's a substantial market these days after all, and plenty of large businesses have cow-towed to their demands in the past.

(I know they're just guidelines, but still.)
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:36 PM

...Yeah I don't think China's stint as the world's largest economy will be all that long-lived. These sort of policies don't really promote the innovation needed to create new technologies and scientific understanding.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:52 PM

So are they going to ban any adaptations of "Journey to the West", one of their most revered literary fantasies?


That'd be... kind of an odd thing to ban; like Greece banning "The Illiad".

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:11 PM

All things considered... china can be a pretty odd place.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:12 PM

There are a lot of fiction with time travel. Seems like a waste to ban it all.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:41 PM

Things being as they are, I would think that sodomizing creativity and imagination would be the least of their priorities.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:34 PM

So what, they tried and failed to make their own clear rip off Doctor Who and decied they should just outright ban it?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:53 PM

Wow, so, in essence they've decided to ban science fiction and fantasy as a whole. I can see why, though. It's been long known that you can deal with a subject in science fiction and fantasy, using disguised concepts that you couldn't otherwise deal with. Using an alien race as a metaphor for an over zealous, overbearing, authoritarian government, for example.

Time travel in particular gives you the chance to go back and reexamine, even change key events in history, allowing for speculation about the validity of past actions and their impact on the future.

It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

And next week, China bans "Fun". One month later, those deplorable "Colours" shortly follow.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

I'm more curious as to how the Chinese Government plans to enforce this ban. I mean, if the whole point is to ban anything frivolous or fantastic...well...that's effectively everything ever.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.


What?

#17 Bug-Saw

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:20 PM

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What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

#18 Kalidor

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

Hornet, I'm going to give you an option Be banned or use this as your avatar.


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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Apr 20 2011, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

I thought it was religion that was supposed to be the opiate of the masses... in fact... yeah, that was it.

And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.

In any case, that just strengthens what I was saying, which is that the fantasy environment is one of the few safe places for the oppressed to write about their oppressors. That is to say: The Chinese government wants to stifle any fiction that could plant non-conformist ideals into the minds of the masses.

Granted, there could be some other, less outright evil reason for banning two whole genres of fiction, but I really don't see it. Not when it's those particular genres.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 02:30 AM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 21 2011, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.


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