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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:11 PM

So this story struck me as oddball, even coming from China. Apparently, the ministries have decided that no stories depicting "fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking."

Now, if I'm not mistaken.. that's pretty much everything that's on TV today, to some degree. But beyond the scope of the ban, I'm not sure what China feels it will be getting out of keeping that stuff off TV other than the simple fact that every aspect that is covered in their ban involves the imagination.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:15 PM

Did the ending of Lost really tick them off that badly?
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:18 PM

Probably one of those "imagining better societies implies this one isn't perfect" things.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:30 PM

Good on China for reminding us every now and then they're a brutal, authoritarian dictatorship.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:32 PM

Can't help but wonder if something like this could affect future product and media here: toys, TV shows, books, movies, what have you. China's a substantial market these days after all, and plenty of large businesses have cow-towed to their demands in the past.

(I know they're just guidelines, but still.)
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:36 PM

...Yeah I don't think China's stint as the world's largest economy will be all that long-lived. These sort of policies don't really promote the innovation needed to create new technologies and scientific understanding.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:52 PM

So are they going to ban any adaptations of "Journey to the West", one of their most revered literary fantasies?


That'd be... kind of an odd thing to ban; like Greece banning "The Illiad".
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:11 PM

All things considered... china can be a pretty odd place.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:12 PM

There are a lot of fiction with time travel. Seems like a waste to ban it all.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:41 PM

Things being as they are, I would think that sodomizing creativity and imagination would be the least of their priorities.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:34 PM

So what, they tried and failed to make their own clear rip off Doctor Who and decied they should just outright ban it?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:53 PM

Wow, so, in essence they've decided to ban science fiction and fantasy as a whole. I can see why, though. It's been long known that you can deal with a subject in science fiction and fantasy, using disguised concepts that you couldn't otherwise deal with. Using an alien race as a metaphor for an over zealous, overbearing, authoritarian government, for example.

Time travel in particular gives you the chance to go back and reexamine, even change key events in history, allowing for speculation about the validity of past actions and their impact on the future.

It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

And next week, China bans "Fun". One month later, those deplorable "Colours" shortly follow.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

I'm more curious as to how the Chinese Government plans to enforce this ban. I mean, if the whole point is to ban anything frivolous or fantastic...well...that's effectively everything ever.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a pretty clear message they're sending with this, and I hope the Chinese people fight back, one way or another.

I don't think the reasons are that complicated, I think this ban came about simply because sci-fi and fantasy go against communism's atheist principles.


What?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Apr 20 2011, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

Hornet, I'm going to give you an option Be banned or use this as your avatar.



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Posted 20 April 2011 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Apr 20 2011, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Apr 20 2011, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?

Soviet-style communism has always been about rejecting fantasy in all forms because fantasy is considered the opiate of the masses.

I thought it was religion that was supposed to be the opiate of the masses... in fact... yeah, that was it.

And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.

In any case, that just strengthens what I was saying, which is that the fantasy environment is one of the few safe places for the oppressed to write about their oppressors. That is to say: The Chinese government wants to stifle any fiction that could plant non-conformist ideals into the minds of the masses.

Granted, there could be some other, less outright evil reason for banning two whole genres of fiction, but I really don't see it. Not when it's those particular genres.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 02:30 AM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Apr 21 2011, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I learned that from an episode of Agatha Christie's Poirot, no less.


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