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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.


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#1 Star-A-Star

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:12 PM

So, my Aunt has been working on our family tree at Ancestry.com and it turns out on my mother's side one our ancestors is Henry of Lancaster, the 3rd Earl of Lancaster who was of the House Plantagenet (as well as House Lancaster) which produced at total of 15 English Monarchs (3 directly from House Lancaster - Henry's the IV, V, and VI). Considering the modest occupations of my more immediate ancestors, needless to say I was quite surprised. And this is just part of my mother's side-we haven't even touch my father's side.

On a less positive but still historical note, we're also related to Sir Thomas Lucy who liked to persecute Catholics (including Shakespeare's family).

So I guess you should all start bowing down and calling me Your Highness icon-waspy.gif .
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#2 Scavgraphics

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:21 PM

.....oh....(I'll put my sword away now)......thought you were someone else.

#3 ShadowMan024

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:45 PM

I'm actually a distant cousin of Charles Lindbergh on my mother's side, and on my father's side, we have the perpetrator of the REAL great train robbery. By that logic, I'm destined to be a sky pirate icon-fire.gif

QUOTE(Fullstrength Motleypuss @ Apr 4 2011, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On a less positive but still historical note, we're also related to Sir Thomas Lucy who liked to persecute Catholics (including Shakespeare's family).

At least you aren't related to that bastard Oliver Cromwell icon-fire.gif

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#4 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:55 PM

Yeah, well my legend began in the 12th century.

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#5 UnicronusPrime

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 09:04 PM

There is a castle that bears (beres? Bares?) my last name. I have yet to find out if there is a relation or not.
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#6 Zek

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 09:45 PM

My last name's Smith....


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:00 AM

I'm a distant relation to Scottish Royalty, that's about all I know. I'd check up on Ancestry.com but the site plays dirty pool when it comes to its "Free" Trial (To not get billed, I have to physically call to say I don't want the service...nice to see that explanation is in small print).

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#8 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:12 AM

I might be indirectly related to Davy Crocket through marriage.

I am also most likely a member of the Lower Silesian Nobility. icon-fire.gif

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#9 Destron D-69

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:23 AM

I'm related to that guy in Braveheart that wasn't Mel Gibson
With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:31 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 5 2011, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm related to that guy in Braveheart that wasn't Mel Gibson

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#11 Destron D-69

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:40 AM

lol, sorry - Robert the Bruce
With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 04:52 AM

My mom's grandfather, being a well-versed man in history and literature as well, spent his spare time during the communism (where he, previously a public prosectutor of the state, had to work as a night guard, having been "B-listed" as an enemy of the state) putting together our family tree. He managed to trace the Andrassy name back to the time the hungarian tribes entered the Karpat-basin in 900 AD. On my father's side, I am of kraut (Swabisch) descent. And despite the name, I am not related to Andrassy Gyula, the famous politician - that's a different Andrassy family, though we are related to two famous hungarian poets, Kisfaludy Karoly and Sandor.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 05 April 2011 - 04:52 AM.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 06:50 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 4 2011, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol, sorry - Robert the Bruce


The heck you say. I am too. He's an ancestor of my Mom's.

And Pocahontas and John Rolfe are an ancestors of my Dad.

Edit - I asked my dad for details and he sent me all the names in my lineage to Pocahontas. He was my 8 greats grandmother. And today (or maybe yesterday) is her wedding anniversary.

He doesn't have details on Robert the Bruce because he hasn't tracked my mom's geneology. He just knows that her mother said so.

Edited by Axaday, 06 April 2011 - 12:49 AM.


#14 wonko the sane?

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:50 AM

I get the distinct impression that ancestry.com is fluffing the output a bit to get more people to pay for it.

I'm pretty sure there's no royalty in my family blood. Maybe a few rebels, some soldiers, farmers and whores, but nothing as debase as royalty.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

Oh my family history is about as sorid. On my dad's side, a guy with my last name just turned up in the Midwest in the mid-1800s with no birth certificate or proof of identity. We figure it's an assumed name. That's as far back as we can trace my dad's side.

On my mom's side, my Great-Great Grandfather was appearently a very well to do individual in Scotland when one night, he packed up his wife and children and sailed to the US without a penny to their names. We do wonder what happened there.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:54 AM

I have no idea who my ancestors were, and I kind of like it that way.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 09:25 AM

You'd be surprised at how much male nobility got around in the Dark Ages and Renaissance, it's not necessarily all 'inflation' by geneology websites. Sir Thomas de Moulton was a travelling companion to William the Conqueror in the mid 1000's, and my paternal ancestor, although there is still some uncertainty about some potential French origins of the surname (but no evidence of ancestry) also dating back to the mid 1000's.

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#18 wonko the sane?

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 09:39 AM

Yeah, thats a given. In an era when the ruling class had absolute power and almost NOTHING to use it for, sleeping around and getting drunk was probably top of the list. There's probably blue blood in half of the worlds veins.

Doesn't mean we have to like it.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 09:46 AM

QUOTE(UnicronusPrime @ Apr 4 2011, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a castle that bears (beres? Bares?) my last name. I have yet to find out if there is a relation or not.


Same Here!

The actual "Castle Finkenstein" lies in the Austria area. Probably not too likely I have any relation to the owners, as, from what I know, my Father's family from the area were all jewish back then, so it's much more likely they just lived near the Castle. But I still find it pretty cool.

Still, we should totally start a club exlusively for people who have a Castle that bares their name.



-ZacWilliam, knowa a lot less about my Mom's family, though I know they've got some Polish and French in there. Wish Ancestry.com was cheaper to sign up for as I'd love to dig into that side...


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:20 AM

Geneology became my mom's obsession hobby a few years ago. Looking through what she's found has only confirmed what I've long suspected; no member of my family has ever done anything unusual, adventurous, or significant.

I'm descended from a long line of Hobbits.



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