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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 07:27 AM

These threads are always fun and interesting IMO. Lets not worry about repaints/alternate heads we know exist right now (unless there's one you REALLY want) assume they get dumped into the movie line or something and the next few waves of Generations are all new (fantasy, I know, but fun). How would you fill the next few waves of characters?

I'm gonna assume for my list that legends/legion and scout/commander are off the table as part of Cyberverse and limit things to Deluxe and above...

WAVE 1
Deluxe
Arcee - yea, she's probably cursed to never happen but its my dream line, so...
Sky Dive - I really want G1ish Aerialbots to go with Silverbolt and one mold would make for easy remolds of all
Runamuck - obvious alt-head repaint (plus Throttlebot potential).

Voyager
Trailbreaker - Cutter, whatever, just help me finish my 84 Autobot display please?
Blitzwing - Triplechangers are hard at Deluxe, but a Voyager could be amazing.

Ultra
Ultra Magnus - Cab and Trailer that actually looks like classic armored Magnus as a bot. Together w/ Arcee it finishes the TF:TM cast. Question in my mind is should his built in remold be Motormaster or Powermaster Prime. I'd love new figures of either...


WAVE 2
Deluxe
AirRaid - Sky Dive remold
Top Spin - Love me some Jumpstarters
Fangry - Gotta have some underdogs. Plus, later BW Silverbolt remold work for anyone else?

Voyager
Shockwave - the movie has to have given this enough push toget made soon.

Ultra
Sludge - Need More Dinobots! Plus no Sauropods since the original means we need a big old Sludge.


ZacWilliam, so there are my first two "Fantasy Waves." Who would you like to see?

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 March 2011 - 07:39 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 07:37 AM

As much as I want an Ultra Sludge, it seems Ultras are dead for good.

For me I'd like Arcee, an Aerialbot as you described (as it would be easy to get all four out of the mold with different heads and some different jet parts), Blitzwing, Springer, Needlenose, Chromedome, Shockwave, Slugslinger, a new Bumblebee (with Goldbug & Hubcap retools), G2 Megatron, F-22 G1 Starscream.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:04 AM

All great choices there! The Aerialbots being good repaint/remold fodder is a good idea.

I'd love to see a realistic space shuttle at the Voyager price point. And I'm probably going to be hung up by my toes for suggesting it, but I want it to be Sky Lynx... with a humanoid robot mode. Remold the head and we can get a Blast-off too.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:13 AM

I guess I'll do a wave.

Deluxe:
Arcee
G2 Decepticon Deluge(Need some decepticon scientists for balance)
Wheelie

Voyager
Shockwave
G1 Highbrow(Preferably with Headmaster gimmick, but I'd settle for a toy that resembles the G1 character)

Unique sizeclass:
Ultra Magnus*

*This, a long with Ultimate Optimus(Although I hope Ultra Magnus would be cheaper), goes on to set a precedent of base figure+trailer/combining accessory and we get a slow trickle of guys like Nova Prime and Star Saber.

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QUOTE(HeyMickey @ Mar 17 2011, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All great choices there! The Aerialbots being good repaint/remold fodder is a good idea.

I'd love to see a realistic space shuttle at the Voyager price point. And I'm probably going to be hung up by my toes for suggesting it, but I want it to be Sky Lynx... with a humanoid robot mode. Remold the head and we can get a Blast-off too.

The remold should be Galaxy Shuttle.

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 17 March 2011 - 08:18 AM.



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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE(HeyMickey @ Mar 17 2011, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All great choices there! The Aerialbots being good repaint/remold fodder is a good idea.

I'd love to see a realistic space shuttle at the Voyager price point. And I'm probably going to be hung up by my toes for suggesting it, but I want it to be Sky Lynx... with a humanoid robot mode. Remold the head and we can get a Blast-off too.


I honestly don't know how I'd feel about a humanoid Sky Lynx. There's something just so Iconic about the big dactyl-cat to me. I think I'd have to see it in person to see if it would be too different for me to accept as Commander Modesty.

Would 100 % support a G1 style version of him, though I'm not sure Hasbro would make something that "different"
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:36 AM

Thought of a Wave 2:


Deluxe:
Flame(not sure which faction they'd give him)
Ironfist
Spinister

Voyager:
Rhinox(They said they wanted to do him)

Two pack:
Autobot Clones (I want to see this concept redone. Don't really care which two they do first)

edit:
I seem to be really bad at picking guys with obvious remolds, but these are fantasy waves.

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 17 March 2011 - 08:38 AM.



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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:37 AM

headmasters. period.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE(Grotusque @ Mar 17 2011, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
headmasters. period.


Chromedome with Stylor is REALLY high on my want list. I didn't fit him into my two fantasy waves above but only cause I needed to give some spots to Cons.

Chromedome was easily my favorite HM toy as a kid and I'd love to see him back. Such good memories of him. Given his Leadership role in Japan I can see Takara being all for it as well.


ZacWilliam, ok If I'm honest a new Fortress Maximus would be even higher on my list, but then I'd have to explain to everyone how I love him from the Marvel comics so no he doesn't have to be Huge, A voyager or up is fine...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 17 March 2011 - 08:52 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:53 AM

They will never be complete till they have done Skullcruncher!
Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 09:02 AM

If they made a Chromedome I would prefer it if they used his toy/Headmasters head design.

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 17 March 2011 - 09:05 AM.



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Posted 17 March 2011 - 09:38 AM

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Mar 17 2011, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they made a Chromedome I would prefer it if they used his toy/Headmasters head design.


Me too. Which I suppose is kinda odd as I fell the opposite about Hardhead and would prefer to see them do his US fiction head.

I think the difference is that Chromedome's US fiction head kinda sucks.


ZacWilliam, Plus having had the toy as a favorite thats the head design thats strong in my memories.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:05 AM

Just give me an Arcee and Loco repainted from Astrotrain and I'll be in heaven.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:13 AM

Scouts:
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Skram (redeco Freeway)

Rollbar
Turbofire (redeco Rollbar)

Chase
Windbreaker (redeco Chase)

Searchlight
Rapido (redeco Searchlight)

Deluxes:
Wideload
Landfill (redeco Wideload)

Runamuck
Runabout (redeco Runamuck)

Arcee
Cyb. Override (redeco Arcee)

Voyagers:
Springer
Whirl (redeco Springer)
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:34 AM

Definitely [twenty-]seconding the Arcee, Aerialbot and Blitzwing ideas. I'd cheat, though, and lump in RTS. icon-fire.gif All Scouts and Voyagers will have to go there. I'll also try to even things out with recolors and stuff.

GENERATIONS: just mix and match waves [I may have miscounted how many go into each -- whatever, just toss in one new mold and one recolor per wave or something so it evens out.]

Car mode Arcee, if only to finally get one.
[Aerialbot], pretty well-justified all around. Plus an Autobot jet would be nice.
Hardhead: Remold from Warpath.
Ratbat?: Whoever. Remold from Scourge.
Trailbreaker/cutter/mix.: Later Hoist remold.
Blitzwing, please, round out the con triples already. Later Marauder Megatron remold or something.
Aerialbot #2: remold from earlier release.
Blazing Megatron: Or something. WFC mold in G1 Flame colors. [I forgot Thunderwing's redeco/remold so this took its place.]

REVEAL THE SHIELD

Scouts:
Brawn [new mold],
Tailgate [redeco of Windcharger]
Deluxes:
Springer [yay!],
Spinister [a Tomahawk remold I'd prefer to Vortex],
Laser Rod Electro [Kup remold],
Ricochet [Jazz redeco]
Voyagers:
Jhiaxus [new mold],
Ultra Magnus [new mold, similar to Titanium with improved engineering[/b],
Enforcer Ironhide [redeco of ROTF Recon Ironhide]
Leaders:
[Insert prefix] Starscream [IDW Jhiaxus-themed recolor of Movie Starscream],
"Ghost" Jetfire [dark gray, clear blue, clear smoke-gray Jetfire]

[I've just always wanted a Jhiaxus recolor from that HFTD Leader Starscream.]

Later ideas:
Prowl: Either line. Totally random TFU Sideswipe in RID Super Prowl colors, redeco from earlier release. Can hang out with club exclusive Side Burn!
Wheelie: RTS Scout, new concept car mold, redeco into other Minibot.
Sea Spray: RTS Scout. I just want a tiny, slavish Sea Spray. Make it a Movie Storm Surge redeco if you want.
Huffer: RTS Scout. Pipes or Overload redeco [I actually want an Ironworks, but he'd be too close to Huffer's orange].
Hubs or Trip-Up: RTS Scout, HFTD Hubcap recolor.
Turbomaster Flash: TFU Prowl or RTS Jazz redeco.
Turbomaster Boss: Blurr remold, using the guns. Alternatively, Sidearm Sideswipe.
Dark Energon Megatron: Generations. WFC mold in Galvatron colors.
Armada Megatron: RTS Voyager, new mold.
Just... some Headmasters. I keep forgetting! Gimme Brainstorm!

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:44 AM

I would choose not from the ancient warriors of G1, but from the magnificent ranks of the Unicron Trilogy.

Designs such as of Armada Megatron and Decepticon Demolishor deserve new hope found in brand new molds.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Mar 17 2011, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would choose not from the ancient warriors of G1, but from the magnificent ranks of the Unicron Trilogy.

But does the populace want much of that you have to wonder? What with the likely only people to be interested being diehard fans of that line/show, and there being figures of them in the last 10 years. It seems Hasbro wants to stick with their current series, G1, and some new characters.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:15 AM

I'll do this! These would the wave of Generation that would be perfect to me. Even though the Ultra class is non existent at the moment, I'll include it anyway. This is purely fantasy. All of these would be new molds.


Deluxe:
Apeface
Weirdwolf
Arcee
Tarantulas

Voyager:
Transmetal Megatron
Blitzwing


Ultra:
Shockwave
Galvatron
Victory Leo

Leader:
God Ginrai
Star Saber




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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 17 2011, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Mar 17 2011, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would choose not from the ancient warriors of G1, but from the magnificent ranks of the Unicron Trilogy.

But does the populace want much of that you have to wonder? What with the likely only people to be interested being diehard fans of that line/show, and there being figures of them in the last 10 years. It seems Hasbro wants to stick with their current series, G1, and some new characters.

Randy


The die-hard fans of those series deserve freedom as well, G1 homages and toys shall exist forever, but Armada homages are scarse, I see no ill in delivering two or three figures based on the series.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:47 AM

I'll do things equally with usually one repaint per wave / size class (since there are always repaints). I'll assume Legends, Ultras, Leaders and Supremes are possible but that there would be no new molds for Ultras and larger. I won't use molds from the movie line but I will use molds from Cybertron only when necessary.

WAVE 1

LEGENDS
Autobot Gears - new mold
Autobot Emirate Xaaron - repaint of RtS Megatron
Insecticon Sharpshot - new mold
Insecticon Hardshell - new mold
Decepticon Metrotank - repaint of Universe Megatron

SCOUT
Autobot Ironfist - new mold
Autobot Cerebros - new mold [interacts with Fortress Maximus]
Decepticon Metrobomb - new mold
Decepticon Wipeout - repaint of RtS Windcharger

DELUXE
Autobot Arcee + Daniel - new mold
Autobot Trailcutter - new mold
Decepticon Black Shadow - remold of Thunderwing
Decepticon Blue Bacchus - new mold [will be remolded into Crossblades later]

VOYAGER
Autobot Fortress Maximus - new mold [based on IDW design]
Decepticon Jhiaxus - head remold of RtS Lugnut

ULTRA
Decepticon Trypticon - repaint of Cybertron Scourge

LEADER
Decepticon Metrotitan + Metroshot - repaint of Cybertron Metroplex + Dill Bit

SUPREME
Golden Age of Cybertron Primus - repaint of Cybertron Primus



WAVE 2

LEGEND
Autobot Rapido - repaint of RtS Prowl
Autobot Ricochet - repaint of Universe Jazz
Autobot Scrounge - new mold
Decepticon Garboil - new mold [resembles Shadow Hawk Cosmic Type]
Insecticon Kickback - new mold

SCOUT
Autobot Twin Twist - new mold
Autobot Topspin - new mold
Decepticon Carnivac - new mold
Decepticon Killbison - repaint of RtS Rumble/Frenzy

DELUXE
Autobot Springer - new mold [triple changer]
Autobot Impactor - new mold
Decepticon Detritus + Howlback - repaint of Universe Hound + Ravage
Decepticon Shockwave - new mold

VOYAGER
Autobot Artfire - repaint of Inferno [with some of Grappel's remolded parts]
Decepticon Scorponok + Lord Zarak - new mold [Headmaster]

ULTRA
Autobot Brainstorm - repaint of Universe Silverbolt

LEADER
Autobot HotZone/Defensor - repaint of Cybertron Optimus Prime

SUPREME
Decepticon Underbase Starscream - repaint of Cybertron Starscream

Edited by Bass X0, 17 March 2011 - 07:49 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:59 AM

Scout:
    G1 Wheelie
    G1 Huffer
    G1 Pipes (redeco with new head)
    G1 Brawn
    G1 Outback (redeco with new head)
    G1 Gears
    G1 Swerve (redeco with new head)

Deluxe:
    Arcee
    Paradron Medic (redeco)
    Chromia
    Firestar
    Moonracer
    Road Rage (redeco of RTS Tracks)
    Nancy
    Minerva
    Nightbeat (redeco)
    Blitzwing
    Springer

Voyager:
    G1 Elita One (just a little shorter than Classics Optimus Prime)
    Prima
    Liege Maximo
    The Fallen (War Within or Aligned] designs)
    Alpha Trion
    The Last Autobot
    Female member of the Thirteen (Beta?)
    Other members of the Thirteen (not yet revealed)

Combiner: Nexus Prime (new design not requiring combiner kibble, though still based on original) made up of Deluxe and Scout figures.




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