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@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 06:34 AM)

Not even close.

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 05:51 AM)

What, Mayhem isn't random enough???

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 July 2016 - 04:02 AM)

This place never feels random enough in that respect.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:10 AM)

I thought that was snarking at random strangers without fear of retribution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:22 PM)

Topic-specific threads are the main feature of messageboards like this, you know.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 July 2016 - 07:21 PM)

You should ask that in the TFWiki thread.


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#1 lonegamer8

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 02:08 AM

Out Wednesday, February 23, 2011.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 08:01 AM



Looks cool.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 05:03 PM

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Looks cool.


Is cool. Seriously, this is a good book with some crisp, clear artwork. Get it!


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Posted 23 February 2011 - 05:11 PM

Just a note to anyone who may have been reading the thread over on TFW2005 - seriously, this really doesn't contradict Defiance very much at all, and not in any way that couldn't be undone by the end of the mini.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 07:35 PM

I echo Chris's statement. There's nothing in here that raises my eyebrow, continuity-wise.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 07:48 PM

Pretty much the only thing is Sentinel naming Optimus a Prime when he didn't have the title in Defiance. But as I say, that's nothing that can't be undone by the end of this mini; plus, right now, only three people know about it, and it's really only honorary here, until Optimus learns he's a TRUE Prime in Defiance. Though I suspect Sentinel knows this already and is grooming him for the role, but we shall see how this plays out...

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 08:15 PM

Yeah, the stuff in this issue dances around and references too much from previous movie comics for me to think that the writer is gonna pull that big of a contradiction.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:16 AM

(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 07:05 AM

So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 24 2011, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)


How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 24 2011, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 24 2011, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)


How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?


She deid in "Reign of Starscream", and "Rising Storm" explains that Flatline used Arcee's spark to reignite both Elita's and Chromia's, a retconning of what we saw in "Tales of the Fallen".

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 24 2011, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 24 2011, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, is Sentinel really Optimus' daddy like Bay said somewhere?

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 24 2011, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(In related news, time to totally merge Elita (Movie) and Elita (ROTF).)


How so, when in the Arcee ToF comic she was created from Arcee along with Chromia, thanks to the crazy Con surgeon's machinations, and in Defiance, she died on Cybertron prior to this event?


She deid in "Reign of Starscream", and "Rising Storm" explains that Flatline used Arcee's spark to reignite both Elita's and Chromia's, a retconning of what we saw in "Tales of the Fallen".


Not a complete retcon, though - it's all but outright stated that the three have a sort of hive mind thing going on. Kinda weird if you ask me.
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Posted 24 February 2011 - 04:29 PM

Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:01 AM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!


Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 25 2011, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

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That is AWESOME. Which one is which? The wiki must know.

Edit: I just recalled one of them was female, so I assume she's not Deadguy. Never hurts to be sure, though.

Edited by Cattleprod, 25 February 2011 - 12:15 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:22 AM

QUOTE(Cattleprod @ Feb 24 2011, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 25 2011, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

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That is AWESOME. Which one is which? The wiki must know.

Edit: I just recalled one of them was female, so I assume she's not Deadguy. Never hurts to be sure, though.


Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder. I designed him with a mix of BB and Arcee in mind, as a younger Autobot eager to please Optimus and prove himself on the battlefield. Meanwhile Deadguy was designed to look like he was a flyer yet followed Optimus on foot and willing to go wherever Optimus did.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 24 2011, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!


Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....


Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! icon-fire.gif I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?

Edited by Master Fwiffo, 25 February 2011 - 12:31 AM.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 25 2011, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder.

Oops, yeah, I guess he doesn't really have many fembot traits beyond 'is a motorcycle'. His similar coloration to Elita-1 might've confused me when just glancing back at it.

Since we haven't driven you away with inane questions (yet), is the purple-ish seeker on page 5 based on Cyclonus, or am I seeing things?

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE(Cattleprod @ Feb 24 2011, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 25 2011, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually they were both "male" but I guess the one did have sort of fembot traits, which would be Cannonfodder.

Oops, yeah, I guess he doesn't really have many fembot traits beyond 'is a motorcycle'. His similar coloration to Elita-1 might've confused me when just glancing back at it.

Since we haven't driven you away with inane questions (yet), is the purple-ish seeker on page 5 based on Cyclonus, or am I seeing things?


Sadly no. He's basically just a "repaint" of Ramjet and Priscilla is solely responsible for the color choice. Though she might have had him in mind, I'm not sure. If you like Cyclonus easter eggs though, keep your eyes peeled in this series....

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:43 AM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 24 2011, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!


Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....


Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! icon-fire.gif I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?


I'm not at liberty to say anything about SW, buy Andy addressed it sorta on the IDW forums today.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 24 2011, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(polystyleneman @ Feb 24 2011, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 24 2011, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of the two books that came out this week, Foundation is the superior of the two based on artwork alone. Griffith does a great job on the Cybertronian bots, even giving a few older toys redesigns (if I'm seeing them right). And once again, Barber is delivering an excellent story with solid writing and an interesting history. Defiance was the better of the two RotF prequels, and this one looks like it will be a very solid complement to the book, filling in a lot of Movieverse's Backstory.

The best aspect is the the explanation of what hapened to Cybertron after the Primes were destroyed. It's not a question I ever really thought about, but after reading the book, it makes sense. Cybertron entered a long dark age with the loss of the Primes, to the point they even forgot what gave them life. I like the roles they are setting up for Sentinel Prime and Shockwave, and am eager to see what DotM will do with these characters.

Excellent book, and highly recommended. Greatly looking forward to issue 2!


Thanks for the kind words, and I'm really glad you liked the book. It only gets better.

Just thought I'd add a quick comment here explaining why I used the designs that I did. For one thing, the movieverse books have had so many different artists from Milne to Figureoa to Khanna and Magno with so many different looks to the bots that I've been trying to use elements from different artists as an attempt to pull everything together. While Elita-1 is closely following Milne's version of her in ROS, Ironhide's Cybertronian mode is basically Figureoa's design used in Defiance 3, as are several other characters like Brawl and others who are going to appear in the series. Flatline of course is Milne's design as his only appearance has been in TOTF.

I basically did my best to stick to previous designs when possible and if there were conflicting designs used then to go with the one that made more sense. Like For Prime's alt mode, I went with Don's design because it made more sense to me than the teardrop-shaped protoform alt mode he turned into sometimes in Defiance.

In my mind I've justified the different styles of designs as being from the different tribes mentioned in Foundation 1. I kinda figure that the guys who look like Don's work in Defiance might have a common heritage, while the background guys designed by Khanna in Defiance might be from another and so on.

By the way, the two guys who get off'ed in the first few pages have actual character names which are very telling, Deadguy and Cannonfodder.

Anyway, just trying to add a little insight for the curious....


Wow, great to hear from you! Your mesh of styles works fairly well. Love the character names! icon-fire.gif I especially love the Tribes explanation - it would explain some of the more radical difference we've seen in some bots.

Say, I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason that Shockwave's design (in both books) differs from the final design we've seen via the toy and game promotions?


I'm not at liberty to say anything about SW, buy Andy addressed it sorta on the IDW forums today.


Ah, thanks!

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