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@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 02:54 PM

Newsarama:

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TRANSFORMERS: Heart of Darkness #3 (of 4)
Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning(w) • Ulises Farinas (a) • Farinas, Casey Coller ?
“CHAOS” PRELUDE! We learn new truths about the TRANSFORMERS’ ancient history—truths that may lead to their ruin. GAVATRON and company gather arms and recruit major forces. With a raving lunatic leading the DECEPTICON forces—absolute destruction is sure to follow. HoD leads directly into “CHAOS”—the first-ever TRANSFORMERS event book from IDW!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
*2 regular covers will be shipped in a 1-to-1 ratio.

Bullet Points:
• The Road to “CHAOS” starts here!
• Introducing a brand new TRANSFORMERS villain!

TRANSFORMERS #19
Mike Costa (w) • Guido Guidi (a) • Marcelo Matere, Guido Guidi ?
“CHAOS” PRELUDE! The situation on Earth continues to deteriorate while we shift focus to outer space where RODIMUS was last seen dead! A classic character returns as the things heat up and we begin our descent into “CHAOS”—THE YEAR’S BIGGEST TRANSFORMERS EVENT! Don’t miss “SPACE OPERA, Part 1!”
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
*2 regular covers will be shipped in a 1-to-1 ratio.

Bullet Points:
• Part 1 of “Space Opera,” the lead-in to CHAOS!
• Fan-favorite Guido Guidi returns!

TRANSFORMERS: The IDW Collection, Vol. 4
Simon Furman, Shane McCarthy, Andy Schmidt, Josh Van Reyk, Shaun Knowler (w) • E.J. Su, Nick Roche, Dan Khanna, James Raiz, Alex Milne, Casey Coller, Marcelo Matere (a) • E.J. Su ?
The re-presentation of IDW's TRANSFORMERS Universe continues in Volume 4! This collection includes the TRANSFORMERS series Maximun Dinobots and the four-part Drift story, as well as Spotlights: Cyclonus, Hardhead, Doubledealer, Sideswipe, Drift, Metroplex, and Jazz.
HC • FC/BW • $49.99 • 352 Pages • 7” x 11” • ISBN: 978-1-60010-938-6

Bullet Points:
• Features another incredible cover from E.J. Su, this time featuring GRIMLOCK.

TRANSFORMERS: Foundation #4 (of 4)
John Barber (w) • Andrew Griffith (a) • Brian Rood ?
On war-ravaged Cybertron, OPTIMUS PRIME finally finds himself face-to-face with MEGATRON... but if Prime carries through his plan, will he have crossed the line? Secrets are revealed as we make our last stop on the road to TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet Points:
• Official TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON prequel!
• Secrets Revealed!

TRANSFORMERS: Rising Storm #4 (of 4)
John Barber (w) • Carlos Magno (a) • Brian Rood ?
Just as OPTIMUS PRIME stands ready to score a decisive victory against STARSCREAM's army of Decepticons, MEGATRON's plan becomes clear—and the Autobots are right where he wants them! This essential lead-in to TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON comes to a head, as new characters are introduced... and familiar faces meet their final fate!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet Points:
• Official TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON prequel!
• Leads directly into the opening of the new movie!


TRANSFORMERS 3: Movie Adaptation
John Barber (w) • Jorge Jimenez Moreno (a & c)
TRANSFORMERS 3 is geared up to be the biggest blockbuster of the decade, and this beautifully illustrated adaptation of the story is the best place to live and re-live the adventure over and over! Join your favorite heroes: OPTIMUS PRIME and BUMBLEBEE as they face off against the most wretched villains: MEGATRON and STARSCREAM and thrill at the new adventure that will have people talking for years to come!
TPB • FC • $17.99 • 104 Pages • ISBN: 978-1-60010-917-1


TRANSFORMERS: Foundation
John Barber (w) • Andrew Griffith (a & c)
Did you ever wonder how the rivalry between OPTIMUS PRIME and MEGATRON began? What set these two friends off on such a climactic collision course? TRANSFORMERS: Foundation is the answer. Unlock the most hidden secrets of Cybertron and witness the dawn of the most bitter rivalry in the galaxy!
TPB • FC • $17.99 • 104 Pages • ISBN: 978-1-60010-918-8


TRANSFORMERS: Rising Storm
John Barber (w) • Carlos Magno (a & c)
Leading right into the mega-events of TRANSFORMERS 3, RISING STORM sets the stage for the biggest, boldest threat to both Earth and Cybertron yet! Join OPTIMUS PRIME and BUMBLEBEE on their quest to stop the dark forces on the rise!
TPB • FC • $17.99 • 104 Pages • ISBN: 978-1-60010-919-5

Bullet Points:
• Official TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON prequels and adaptation give you the complete story around the new movie!



I thought that All Hail Megatron was the first event story they did for Transformers.

Edited by Bass X0, 18 February 2011 - 04:46 PM.

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#2 Primer Prime

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 18 2011, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Newsarama:

TRANSFORMERS: The IDW Collection, Vol. 4
Simon Furman, Shane McCarthy, Andy Schmidt, Josh Van Reyk, Shaun Knowler (w) ? E.J. Su, Nick Roche, Dan Khanna, James Raiz, Alex Milne, Casey Coller, Marcelo Matere (a) ? E.J. Su ?
The re-presentation of IDW's TRANSFORMERS Universe continues in Volume 4! This collection includes the TRANSFORMERS series Maximun Dinobots and the four-part Drift story, as well as Spotlights: Cyclonus, Hardhead, Doubledealer, Sideswipe, Drift, Metroplex, and Jazz.
HC ? FC/BW ? $49.99 ? 352 Pages ? 7? x 11? ? ISBN: 978-1-60010-938-6

Bullet Points:
? Features another incredible cover from E.J. Su, this time featuring GRIMLOCK.


I wonder why this doesn't include the Cliffjumper Spotlight...were SL Blur and Cliffjumper included in volume 3? The only one of those issues I actually have from this volume is the Metroplex spotlight so either way it's a good buy for me... $14 off the cover price of individual issues. I haven't bought any of these collections before; do they usually include concept material or are they just collected reprints?

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Newsarama:

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GAVATRON

Maximun Dinobots


I see IDW doesn't edit their press releases either.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE(Optimus Primary @ Feb 18 2011, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder why this doesn't include the Cliffjumper Spotlight...were SL Blur and Cliffjumper included in volume 3?


They were included in volume 1, for the sake of chronological order since they're supposed to be early in the war (although there's no real reason you can't assume Cliffjumper ends five minutes before he goes to Earth for AHM). It seems pointless to order these chronologically, since there's bound to be more 'prequel' stories at some point.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 04:51 PM

And all I could think was:

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TRANSFORMERS: Foundation
For twelve thousand years the Golden Age of Shattered Glass Cybertron has ruled supreme. Now it is dying. But only Megatron, creator of the revolutionary science of psychohistory, can see into the future--to a dark age of ignorance, barbarism, and warfare that will last thirty thousand years. To preserve knowledge and save Transformerkind, Megatron gathers the best minds on Cybertron--both scientists and scholars--and brings them to a city on the far side of Cybertron to serve as a beacon of hope for a future generations. He calls his sanctuary the Foundation.

But soon the fledgling Foundation finds itself at the mercy of corrupt Autobots rising in the wake of the receding Decepticons. Transformerkind's last best hope is faced with an agonizing choice: submit to the Autobots and be overrun--or fight them and be destroyed.

[This joke's text mostly plagarized from Amazon.com.]

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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#6 ShadowMan024

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 04:56 PM

All I can say is that I hope the new villain isn't some chick cosplaying as a TF.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 18 February 2011 - 05:57 PM

Hmmn! They're releasing the movie adaptation as a graphic novel first! Wonder if they'll serialize it as individual issues later...?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 18 2011, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmn! They're releasing the movie adaptation as a graphic novel first! Wonder if they'll serialize it as individual issues later...?


That's standard practice with movie adaptations, actually. They want the TPB out with the movie to maximize sales. They did the same with RotF, and Dark Horse did the same with the Star Wars prequels.

Edit: okay, the earliest version of the RotF collection was released the same week as the second issue of the serialized version. Close enough.

Edited by Cattleprod, 19 February 2011 - 12:12 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 18 2011, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And all I could think was:

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TRANSFORMERS: Foundation
For twelve thousand years the Golden Age of Shattered Glass Cybertron has ruled supreme. Now it is dying. But only Megatron, creator of the revolutionary science of psychohistory, can see into the future--to a dark age of ignorance, barbarism, and warfare that will last thirty thousand years. To preserve knowledge and save Transformerkind, Megatron gathers the best minds on Cybertron--both scientists and scholars--and brings them to a city on the far side of Cybertron to serve as a beacon of hope for a future generations. He calls his sanctuary the Foundation.

But soon the fledgling Foundation finds itself at the mercy of corrupt Autobots rising in the wake of the receding Decepticons. Transformerkind's last best hope is faced with an agonizing choice: submit to the Autobots and be overrun--or fight them and be destroyed.

[This joke's text mostly plagarized from Amazon.com.]


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But dammit, you had to remind me that I want SG Megatron for being Transformer Hari Seldon...

#10 Chip

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:17 AM

I was kinda hoping and expecting to see a new writer on the ongoing as of issue 19. There's no point to an ongoing that's so blatantly written for the TPB.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:28 AM

Yep, Costa has gotten me to drop the book. Planning on checking out Heart of Darkness, though!

Now I'm worried that "Chaos" is just going to lead into Unicron again...

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 11:50 AM

I've long since learned that movie prequel leads in are best read after a movie. You know, so you don't go in expecting all the early stuff the prequel writers were told to include but the final movie changed or completely dropped.

How's that interdimensional prison, Fallen?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:12 PM

QUOTE(Moroboshi Ataru @ Feb 19 2011, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, Costa has gotten me to drop the book. Planning on checking out Heart of Darkness, though!

Now I'm worried that "Chaos" is just going to lead into Unicron again...

I'm hoping it involves Sergeant Chaos. icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 19 February 2011 - 12:14 PM.



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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Feb 18 2011, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All I can say is that I hope the new villain isn't some chick cosplaying as a TF.



QUOTE(Moroboshi Ataru @ Feb 19 2011, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I'm worried that "Chaos" is just going to lead into Unicron again...

I just hope it's not a giant monster who's covered in glowing green crystals.



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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:53 PM

Actually, you're all wrong.

The central action revolves around milkman Ronnie Soak.


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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:56 PM

Abnett got his notes mixed up.

Turns out the villains of this are in fact The Blood Pact.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 06:14 AM

When I read the thread description as "Chaos! New Villain" all I could think of was the lame crystal monster Kup fought in the cartoon. Hope Costa is not bringing back that thing, it was lame then and would be lame now.

I thought they were joking, but indeed they are calling the story arc "Space Opera". Now I won't be happy unless I get one-eyed Megatron carving runes into his fusion cannon and Grimlock playing the role of Siegfried. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 06:20 AM

Chaosteros (?) already made a cameo in the never-resolved Spotlight Wheelie.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE(FFN @ Feb 21 2011, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chaosteros (?) already made a cameo in the never-resolved Spotlight Wheelie.


Oh, so that was a nod to the old cartoon villain? Thanks!
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Feb 19 2011, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was kinda hoping and expecting to see a new writer on the ongoing as of issue 19. There's no point to an ongoing that's so blatantly written for the TPB.


have you mentioned anything other than this stance in an IDW thread this year?

Woooo!



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