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@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 06:29 PM)

So apparently the 2016 remake of "Instruments of Destruction" is out. I'm still waiting for an Amazon download to become available, but the clips I heard thus far sound cool. They're using the uncensored lyrics!

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 03:02 PM)

:(

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 September 2016 - 08:25 AM)

Sorry bebbeh, I'm taken.


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#21 Blueshift

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 03:03 PM

Damn Walky, that does look nice!

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:07 AM

Excellent work, Walky!

By the way, everyone - since my original post, more Jose Delbo artwork has gone up on Heritage Auctions. The pages are less Transformer-heavy than the original one I tossed up, but here they are anywho:

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The inking on that Starscream/Ratbat panel is surprisingly good - oh, ah-ha. "The Flames of Boltax" was inked by Danny Bulanadi, not Dave Hunt. That would explain it.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 06:38 AM

Yeah, I love to see the old Marvel comics recolored properly. It makes me want whole comics recolored. I'd buy them. I think I may even say that Delbo's art colored like this is preferable to the modern IDW comics.

I just compared the actual comic panel to Walky's recolor. Its amazing how the details that get overlooked in the original stand out much more. Before, I just read the text in that panel and moved on, now there are things to look at and take in.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 07:14 AM

Yeah these really make me wish I had ANY skill as a colorist. If I did I would totally recolor all these myself. I too wish IDW would recolor the whole series like this. I have every issue already and I'd buy that in a second.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 03:15 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah these really make me wish I had ANY skill as a colorist. If I did I would totally recolor all these myself. I too wish IDW would recolor the whole series like this. I have every issue already and I'd buy that in a second.

ZacWilliam, le sigh...



pretty sure its been brought up to IDW before!

and its not that they're against the idea [they've re-colored a LOT of classic Doctor Who comics for instance]


its just finding the B&W art to do it!
which is pretty rare/difficult i gather

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 17 2011, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had time to do the first panel. Well, okay, I didn't, but I did it anyway.

Yeah that looks awesome!

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Feb 25 2011, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah these really make me wish I had ANY skill as a colorist. If I did I would totally recolor all these myself. I too wish IDW would recolor the whole series like this. I have every issue already and I'd buy that in a second.

ZacWilliam, le sigh...



pretty sure its been brought up to IDW before!

and its not that they're against the idea [they've re-colored a LOT of classic Doctor Who comics for instance]


its just finding the B&W art to do it!
which is pretty rare/difficult i gather


It's not possible to generate new black-and-white art from the existing colour proofs? I know something like this was done to allow The Killing Joke to be recoloured.
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:42 PM

Yeah there are a few ways that I can think of. This is just a quick Posterize -> Copy paste the lines to a new layer.



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But ultimately you probably need to use all tricks (like a threshold to get the lines deep in darkness) and some restoration to get the best quality lineart.

Now I didn't check how well this worked with a high res scan of a flats colored oldschool book. In the end I guess it depends if its worth the cost to the publisher.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 05:31 PM

More Delbo pages!

http://obscuretf.com.....2049 Page.jpg

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 06:04 PM

Now those are some cool pages! Tha "Boat Max" page was always memorable for me because he pretty much never TFed in the comic. And the rest have a great line-up of Comic major characters of the time.

Quick, someone kidnap Walky and get him to color in these too!


ZacWilliam, who else around here colors well? We need a longer list of folks to kidnap and force to do art!


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Posted 28 February 2011 - 07:55 PM

Man, these are so much better to look at without Yomtov's horrendous and lazy coloring.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 28 February 2011 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Feb 28 2011, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Feb 25 2011, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah these really make me wish I had ANY skill as a colorist. If I did I would totally recolor all these myself. I too wish IDW would recolor the whole series like this. I have every issue already and I'd buy that in a second.

ZacWilliam, le sigh...



pretty sure its been brought up to IDW before!

and its not that they're against the idea [they've re-colored a LOT of classic Doctor Who comics for instance]


its just finding the B&W art to do it!
which is pretty rare/difficult i gather


It's not possible to generate new black-and-white art from the existing colour proofs? I know something like this was done to allow The Killing Joke to be recoloured.
--Andrew S.



its definitely possible, but I think "not worth the work" is the reason for not pursuing something like this

IDW's main concern are their own titles and to dedicate the time and resources to restoring somebody else's comics [not to mention old comics] isnt as financially viable. [they were even leary about even just re-printing the old stuff as well IIRC]

IDW's still a business and I think i'd agree with the call. I dont think the pay off would be substantial enough to warrant such a project, unfortunately






and if anyones interested i'll color one or part of these and livestream it!

might be kinda neat

even if you dont make it to watch it live it'll still be up on my livestream page and you can watch it after the fact. i'll probably only have the time from around 3-5 AM PST so i dont expect many people to make that lol

but still!

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#33 Monzo

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 09:00 AM

I don't know what your livestream is?

You could just post it in the thread.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:02 AM

Woot! I loved this version of Pointblank's head, with the Blurr-like crest on the helmet. His Max looks great as well. Though if it wasn't for the internet, I'd have never guessed where Fort Max's tower goes in his robot mode (his sides), never having seen the toy as a kid.
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:36 AM

QUOTE(Monzo @ Mar 1 2011, 06:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what your livestream is?

You could just post it in the thread.



i dont have any of these pages done yet but my livestream page is http://www.livestream.com/dcjosh


ive also got a couple lower res geoff senior pages i been wanting to do too. maybe ill crack one of those up there as well




feel free to watch the Batman one i have up there though!
Scott Williams [Jim Lee's inker] drew that up and i spent an hour coloring it. gettin back in the groove. good times!

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:27 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 28 2011, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, these are so much better to look at without Yomtov's horrendous and lazy coloring.


Spoken like a guy who didn't have to handpaint dozens of robots using a limited palette 20 years ago. Us digital folks have it easy.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 28 2011, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, these are so much better to look at without Yomtov's horrendous and lazy coloring.


Spoken like a guy who didn't have to handpaint dozens of robots using a limited palette 20 years ago. Us digital folks have it easy.



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Coloring then and coloring now are such completely different animals, you can't even compare the two.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Mar 1 2011, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 28 2011, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, these are so much better to look at without Yomtov's horrendous and lazy coloring.


Spoken like a guy who didn't have to handpaint dozens of robots using a limited palette 20 years ago. Us digital folks have it easy.

So what's his excuse for being so horrible with GIJoe while most of the other colorists on that title kept a good grip on who's who with limited block coloring, even though Joes looked even more alike than Transformers do?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:10 PM

I would have to know what you're talking about to respond to your accusations directly, but I'm pretty confident that any claim of "laziness" is really friggin' difficult to support. You don't know his schedule and you don't know the context of his work.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Mar 1 2011, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 28 2011, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, these are so much better to look at without Yomtov's horrendous and lazy coloring.


Spoken like a guy who didn't have to handpaint dozens of robots using a limited palette 20 years ago. Us digital folks have it easy.


I'd go as far as to say "Spoken like a guy who read 20 different Marvel titles of that era and none of them looked as terrible as Yomtov's despite being used with the same tools"

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