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@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 03:17 AM

Holy crap Yertle, that's depressing.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 08:32 AM

heh, I thought that was most of the point of a Nuzlocke log, to dramatize your journey icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 09:17 AM

Well...all my team was brutally murdered by a machop. I forgot Dark is weak to Fighting so my Poochy died...then all my normal pokemon died..

OH well!

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:00 AM

Are there still people doing the fake trade thing? (connect to a specific dns and you automatically get pokemon)

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:03 AM

After grinding and evolving Hornesto to a Beedrill he earned his keep in the Viridian Forest due to his poison immunity. Halfshell and Ozma took care of the Caterpie lineage whereas Hornesto carried the rear to protect the others from the creeping death of poison. I found an antidote which I will save for emergencies. Ran into a new Rattata outside of the Viridian Forest but Ozma got a little eager and slayed the beast. Halfshell prepares for the upcoming gym.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:39 PM

Doofus and Tweet perished today, but were replaced by my new additions Buddy (Budew), Rockette (Geodude), Abra (Amuro), Rouge (Zubat) and Kricketot (Jiminy).

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:46 AM

http://www.ign.com/s.../3ds/3ds-basics

Q: CAN I PLAY MY OLD GAMES?

A. The 3DS will be backwards compatible with all DS and DSi games. Those games will not be able to display imagery in 3D despite being used on the 3DS. However, some games, most notably Pok?mon Black & White, will gain some enhanced functionality when played on the new system. These cases should be considered extremely rare, however.



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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:07 AM

QUOTE(Goblez @ Feb 11 2011, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, some games, most notably Pok?mon Black & White...


Isn't it normally the way that the above statement should be read as "Only Pokemon Black and White"? Ah well. So long as you can trade between systems, should be ok.

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 11:24 AM

I've got myself a big Gamestop trip on Tuesday....gonna get MVC3, and preorder my Pokemans and Threeds!


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Bicycles!

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:33 PM

Rockette fainted to a trainer's Budew, but I caught a Shellos (Sluggy) so I feel better.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:40 AM

Huh, my self limitation was always taking better care of my Pokemon. I mean, in R/B/Y I was brutal, forcing them to only heal at Pokemon Centers unless it was crucial to beating the game that I suck it up and use healing items.

Later games I focused on building a themed team (High HP since I am a fatty myself) and avoiding as many extraneous Pokemon captures as I could: basically unless I had to capture it for the game to progress, I avoided it. Cheated a few times, but I suppose if I ever get another game (self-imposed hiatus right now), I might go for the full effect.
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:52 AM

I tend to only bother to catch Pokemon I plan to use throughout my initial playthrough of a Pokemon game and then at the end go back to "catch 'em all" since it's easier if you've got a high-level monster with a paralyzing or sleep-inducing move.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:01 AM

I like to build up a team that clobbers everything.

Hence why Gliscor is one of my favorite Pokemon ever.

Mine has an advantage on Flying, Water, Fighting, Grass, Bug, Fire, Electric, Ghost, Psychic, Rock, and Steel types!
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:32 PM

I woke up this morning, turned on my TV. I have never been more overjoyed to see an episode of Pokemon. Not because I liked it (hell, I only watched...3 minutes), but because OMG BLACK AND WHITE!!!

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator @ Feb 12 2011, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tend to only bother to catch Pokemon I plan to use throughout my initial playthrough of a Pokemon game and then at the end go back to "catch 'em all" since it's easier if you've got a high-level monster with a paralyzing or sleep-inducing move.

I'll just tough it out till I get the 'mon with those moves. It's incredibly satisfying to have three full boxes and almost all of them we're in your rotation while you worked towards the next center. I'll usually have a good 50 or so before I have a team fleshed out, and usually around 90-100 before its firm.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Zek @ Feb 12 2011, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I woke up this morning, turned on my TV. I have never been more overjoyed to see an episode of Pokemon. Not because I liked it (hell, I only watched...3 minutes), but because OMG BLACK AND WHITE!!!

Ya anymore the only time I pay attention to the Anime other than the movies is when we seem to transition between generations. New black uniform look for the original team rocket isn't bad. But they had to lose Wobuffet! Lame! Giovanni pry only accepts them now since they are good at destabilizing rival Teams in the other regions. But come on people Ash has got to be older than 10 by now! And does he get a new Pokedex and 5 Pokeballs from each new Professor now? Seems pretty generous to an experienced trainer. And the new girl isn't half as annoying as I thought she would be. She seems to have a bit more going for her than the whole Contest girl they have done for May and Dawn.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:04 AM

From talking to people in the know, apparently this B&W dub is very true to the original Japanese - unlike any past Pokemon dub. Apparently even all the background music was kept. I haven't watched it yet, though.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:10 AM

Apart from the obvious name changes to people and places icon-fire.gif

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:16 AM

I meant the overall feel, mostly. The Rockets, for example, are much more accurately portrayed in the B&W dub. A big gripe with fans of the original Japanese is that TR isn't nearly as goofy as they've been portrayed in the dub.

Changes to names and places is relatively minor, compared to that.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:17 AM

"In what can only be described as incredible, two Pokemon movies will be released this year on July 16th: Victini and the Dark Hero: Zekrom and Victini and the Light Hero: Reshiram; a small scan that leaked on the Internet of CoroCoro magazine has revealed the second title. No other details are known at this time other than there will be two, so we can only speculate what this means. Could there be one real movie with two versions, like with the video games? Could there be two actual movies? Could there be two shorter movies playing back-to-back? Either way, this is quite the development! We'll find out more information within the next few days when more CoroCoro leaks or when the Japanese Pokemon movie website updates."


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