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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Draconis

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:11 AM

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looks pretty badass to me!

Edited by Draconis, 07 February 2011 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:13 AM

Well... That doesn't translate quite as nicely as I hoped it would, but it is nice to know we're getting Prime toys.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:15 AM

WOW... I am so very impressed by this. They nailed the CGI character design.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:15 AM

It looks like the least screen accurate thing about her is her chest.(aside from her weapons and extra kibble)
Can't wait to see the figure unphotoshopped and properly transformed.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:18 AM

That's actually pretty nice looking. Can't wait to see Bulkhead.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:24 AM

She better have enough hip articulation.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:26 AM

That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:28 AM

Okay, I was not expecting to see this today. Looks great!

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Arcee and the rest of the Prime toys will be available on Oct. 1


Sigh. I mean, we pretty much knew that, but still, I was foolishly hoping for a surprise early release.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:30 AM

The thing I like the least about this is the swing we'll have from people freaking out because they think we'll never get Prime toys to people freaking out because they think we'll never get a G1 Arcee.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

Randy

I'm still not really sure about that. I can see it both ways, but it really depends on whether Prime deserves it's own toyline or not.

Considering how many characters are being revealed I'm guessing it does.
Maybe due to Arcee's recent exposure they feel a G1 toy has a chance?


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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Feb 7 2011, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She better have enough hip articulation.

Doesn't look like they'll be able to sway much.

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

I don't see how this positively definitely absolutely cements her as being the Generations one.
After all, this'd be like if the first waves of Animated were sold under the Universe banner. Except worst, since Hasbro's putting more work behind TF: Prime.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:33 AM

Huh. The toy looks better than the design does on the show.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

Randy

I'm still not really sure about that. I can see it both ways, but it really depends on whether Prime deserves it's own toyline or not.

Considering how many characters are being revealed I'm guessing it does.
Maybe due to Arcee's recent exposure they feel a G1 toy has a chance?



QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Daytonus @ Feb 7 2011, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She better have enough hip articulation.

Doesn't look like they'll be able to sway much.

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

I don't see how this positively definitely absolutely cements her as being the Generations one.
After all, this'd be like if the first waves of Animated were sold under the Universe banner. Except worst, since Hasbro's putting more work behind TF: Prime.


I'm thinking it is because besides Warpath the other new Generations listings with Arcee were Bumblebee, Optimus, and Starscream. All characters on TF Prime.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

I don't see how this positively definitely absolutely cements her as being the Generations one.
After all, this'd be like if the first waves of Animated were sold under the Universe banner. Except worst, since Hasbro's putting more work behind TF: Prime.

That, and Generations Arcee is just two waves away while this one isn't out until fall. I think we're getting Generations Arcee in part to hold people over until we get Prime toys.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

Randy

I'm still not really sure about that. I can see it both ways, but it really depends on whether Prime deserves it's own toyline or not.

Considering how many characters are being revealed I'm guessing it does.
Maybe due to Arcee's recent exposure they feel a G1 toy has a chance?



QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Daytonus @ Feb 7 2011, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She better have enough hip articulation.

Doesn't look like they'll be able to sway much.

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2011, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's cool, and I guess we know what that Deluxe Generations Arcee listing was for now.

I don't see how this positively definitely absolutely cements her as being the Generations one.
After all, this'd be like if the first waves of Animated were sold under the Universe banner. Except worst, since Hasbro's putting more work behind TF: Prime.


I'm thinking it is because besides Warpath the other new Generations listings with Arcee were Bumblebee, Optimus, and Starscream. All characters on TF Prime.

Randy


I agree. Hope its not the case, but the timing definitely makes it seem so too.


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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:45 AM

We could get a hold on new waves while Dark of the Moon has its run though, but that's unlikely.

It's far from an exact replica of Prime Arcee, but it's about as close as I'd think a toy could come to resembling the design, and it doesn't look like a half-bad toy either. Head seems a trifle small, but that's probably just the photo. Keep the panel-age to a minimum, and you've got yourself a fun toyline.

Arm blades are a bit too large though. And I'm almost disappointed with how un-stylized she is: give her a new head, she'd fit in pretty well with your Classics toys.

(Five bucks says she gets used as an eventual Botcon exclusive, because, hey, fembots.)
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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Feb 7 2011, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing I like the least about this is the swing we'll have from people freaking out because they think we'll never get Prime toys to people freaking out because they think we'll never get a G1 Arcee.


Good point, but this reveal does give a strong argument that the Warpath wave of Generations will wrap up that line, or at the very least, just leave Hasbro to trickle out a couple more with remolds and redecos hinted at in the instruction manuals. Wheeljack is the only shared mold with United that's left to go in addition to the surprises of Thundercracker and Warpath. As thrilled as I'd be to see an all new and original G1 Arcee mold be released by Hasbro, all signs point to it being a pretty big longshot now.

Still curious why Takara didn't choose to release all the original molds Hasbro decided to (Thunderwing, Warpath). Perhaps 22 releases under United was a magic number, all ending in a fantastic conclusion with those two pending eHobby exclusive three packs.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:48 AM

The article mentions Starscream, if that's right it means Prime's toyline will not just be the Autobot cast.
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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:50 AM

Yes! They gave her the arm blades instead of a gunhand. So yeah, I'm happy. Don't need any other figures, just this.

QUOTE(Paladin @ Feb 7 2011, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The article mentions Starscream, if that's right it means Prime's toyline will not just be the Autobot cast.

Wasn't there listings for a new Gen Starscream and Arcee? I'd bet these are they.

Edited by Blade Raider, 07 February 2011 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:57 AM

I'd be really surprised if Prime toys were just a subset of Generations. I mean, it's a successful show on Hasbro's own network, and it's already been greenlit for a second season before the first has really started. It's clearly going to be a bigger push than just some Deluxes crammed into another line.

Also, I don't know if they'd typically give a release date for something that's just a Generations assortment.



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