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@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.


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#1 Walky

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

Kinda surprised it took this long for this news to surface! Got my Gen 2 Prime in the mail from BBTS today, and as an afterthought, took a look at the instructions.

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It's a similar but different head. He's definitely got the same crest and ears, but with a chinstrap, some kind of nose(?), and Ginrai-like double circles on each side of his head.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:44 PM

(It may be Motormaster's toy head. It's not a perfect match, but it's as good a guess as any, other than "Facemaskless G2 Prime.")

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:47 PM

Totally called Motormaster!
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

Hmm I guess that looks a bit like Motormaster's toy head. But how many people remember the toy head? We all remember the bucket head in a frame from the cartoon. Oh well new heads are still fun, and should have been a predictable surprise at this point.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

Motormaster? That's just crazy enough to work!

He's even got a sword just like Motormaster does.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:49 PM

if its MM, blud and i called it in private.....

that sounds bad

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:54 PM

Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE(J Gargoyle220 @ Jan 19 2011, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I thought Motormaster made sense all along since he's somewhat established as a sword-using character. I'd usually be okay with using a more toy-accurate head, but not so much when his "bucket in a box" animation head is a bit more memorable, and you're doing a vaguely Prime-like head remold on a toy that was already a Prime.

That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:59 PM

After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:00 PM

.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:01 PM

Chinstrap? Or frowny face?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:02 PM

That second frame depicts an old man frowny face on him. I wonder if it's a new character... Crankimus Maximus?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

...that's not Neme-Scourge....

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:05 PM

The head reminds me of either Longrack or interestingly, Cybertron Menasor.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:06 PM

Nemesis Scourge wouldn't need a new head for obvious reasons, I'd think. I wouldn't say its safe to rule him out as a repaint.

I can deal with motormaster. Drag Strip will have company now.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE(Hand Laser Corg @ Jan 19 2011, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That leaves MM open to be repainted as a store or convention exclusive Ultra Magnus.


Because they... couldn't before? Laser Ultra Magnus was a direct redeco of Laser Prime, unless you mean you'd want them to go with a head without a faceplate to resemble Magnus' more iconic face more. Scourge was also a direct redeco, so I'm not sure why that should come up in this discussion either...


QUOTE(Hornet @ Jan 19 2011, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After checking TFU.info, I can see why they went with the toy head. The animation model's head is way too plain looking for a modern TF toy, and duplicating the head-in-a-box appearance wouldn't have been possible with this toy.


Eh, I can see where you'd need a very specific transformation scheme to use the "box" thing, but they probably could have come up with some kind of a bucket head that wasn't too much like Megatron. These guys make heads all the time.

Either way, hopefully the final head will be nice and distinct.

Edited by J Gargoyle220, 19 January 2011 - 05:07 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

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.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:13 PM

Motormaster/Motor Master would work! It kind of explains why PCC Huffer's repaint was named Crank Case instead of Motor Master or even Menasor if they plan on using either name for this recolor, especially since PCC Crank Case's super-mode head is a dead-ringer for Menasor, and he turns into a truck!

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Jan 19 2011, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?


I can see making the argument that they'd be a little too similar to justify getting both characters out of the mold, but saying they're close enough to be each other on some level is more of a stretch.

Depending on how the mold can be laid out, and how the highlight colors and details are used, they could be very different even though black and gray are main colors on both.

Edited by J Gargoyle220, 19 January 2011 - 05:26 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Jan 19 2011, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(SpinOut! @ Jan 19 2011, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.... Well, FunPub. Ball's in your court to give me a new Scourge.

Wouldn't Motormaster be close enough already, color-wise?


That's like saying "Wouldn't Camshaft be close enough to be Bluestreak", or some other silver car.

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