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#41 Razorsaw

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:28 PM

Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense?



QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jan 17 2011, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Undermine's robot mode is untraditional, but I love it so very very much.


I liked him a lot better once I realized that he basically has the same head as Submarauder's pretender shell. In fact, if they redeco'd him in Submarauder's color scheme, I would snatch that up pretty quick.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jan 17 2011, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't get why they keep re-releasing these molds, of all things. The robot modes for Backstop and Undermine are some of the worst in recent memory. Backstop is a squatty side-view of a rhino with extra legs, head and an arm growing out of its ass, and Undermine's robot mode actually has less functional arms and head than his alt mode. How does that even begin to make sense?


Backstop and Undermine are awesome toys. Undermine's redeco Repugnus is even more awesome. Wreckloose, on the other hand.... not so much with the awesome.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:30 PM

Dinoshout is awesome too. I liked him and Undermine so much (as they are very different) I bought both instead of just one (which I wasn't buying two of anything besides Master Megatron during Cybertron).

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 17 2011, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wreckloose and Undermine

(Or check out the article on the front page: http://www.allspark....t/view/8338/20/ )


Wreckloose's new colors remind me of BW Iguanus (the first one).

Anyone else get that vibe?


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Given that the auction headings said "TF Club" on them, I'm wondering if these weren't intended as exclusives for general release somewhere. Backstop would, obviously, have to be redecoed as the original decos might still be on the shelves. But the other two haven't seen the light of day in a while. Furthermore, the fact that Backstop's bio has been altered suggests that we might even be looking at a separate character (kinda like how the Target redecoes of the Energon and Cybertron scouts were supposed to be the Movie-verse versions of those characters).
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:28 PM

Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.

People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 17 2011, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh. All three of these are new characters. Which means I can repurpose three toys I really like into some universe I actually give a crap about, so that's nice.

People don't like Wreckloose? Maybe it was just due to how much I missed Beast Wars at the time, but I remember him being awesome.


That's because he is awesome. How can a Komodo dragon wearing a battle helmet with moose antlers not be awesome?
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 17 2011, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*Edit* Every time I look at this Backstop, the more I want him. Why do I actually have to like that mold despite its countless flaws! icon-fire.gif


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:23 PM

I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE(gpilkay @ Jan 17 2011, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I see an odd Transmetal Rinox homage in Backstop's colors. Not sure, though.


That's what I saw, and why I will buy one. Unless it ends up like that sassin'-frassin' Mini-Con 8-pack in Bulgaria or whatever.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:11 PM

Innnnnnnteresting. I will certainly have to get Backstop... and just repurpose the other two.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:17 PM

Frag. I saw the topic and thought of Scout class characters from War For Cybertron :/
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:56 PM

I gotta say, I refused to get Backstop back in Cybertron, but after the movie lines I think I want him more than say, Arcee, that f***ing Ratchet mold that won't just melt already, or a few others.

So Wreckloose is getting a re-release (with blue Cyber Key. That looks better.), eh? That makes me happy because he's one of the few TFs I regret selling when I had to thin out my collection a few years back.

As for Undermine, he's still one of my favorites from Cybertron, but I wish he'd get a new paint job or they'd re-release the red version instead so I have a good excuse to buy another one.

Edited by Blade Raider, 17 January 2011 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:24 PM

yeah if Wreckloose had had new colours I'd have been all over that... the mold is great ... like a homage to Transmetal 2s but... BACKSTOP? sorry no
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 11:27 PM

Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.

As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package.

I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE(hardbot @ Jan 18 2011, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.

As far as what line they belong to: I was under the impression that Hasbro was replacing "Transformers" with RtS. But since these 3 have no rubsigns, they do not fit into RtS. They are definately not Generations, as Generations has no Scout Class and "Generations" is not on the package.

I keep a personal checklist that is catagorized by year, line and price point and I am dumping these 3 under RtS with an asterisk by their names.

Actually, these would probably fall into the same category as the minicon repaints we got a few months ago
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More than likely, they are intended for "secondary markets" and won't appear at mass retail (unless Walmart gets a bunch in for a Christmas push like this year). If anything, I'd classify them as "non-traditional" releases and move on (especially before people here start arguing the schematics about the non-existent differences between TRansformers product lines)

I AM a bit surprised to see Backstop get a new color set. My understanding was that these "dollar store" repacks were put together by what was available at whichever factory Hasbro was using when they needed to be made, but Backstop shows some development work went into him. That and the fact all three got new bios is very interesting.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 02:48 AM

Heh. Undermine undermines.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:10 AM

QUOTE(hardbot @ Jan 18 2011, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wreckloose always remided me of a Beast Wars Basic.


Is it too much to hope for actual Beast Wars basics?
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:12 AM

Yes they're long gone.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 08:45 AM

Yay, Undermine is back!



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