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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Megatoron

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:51 AM

I know Backstop is redecoed. What about the other two? Were these announced by Hasbro before?

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:56 AM

Oddly, no. Just Backstop has new colors...

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:00 AM

I'm gonna have to get that Backstop.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:19 AM

I like the new colors on Backstop.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:20 AM

Interesting that they're all beasts.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:21 AM

Damn, I WISH the other two had new colors. I love both those molds.

I'm also one of the insane people who likes Backstop, and those colors look nice. Might get.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 17 2011, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm also one of the insane people who likes Backstop, and those colors look nice. Might get.


Count me amongst the fold then too.

I'd love for this new color scheme to join Saidos and Cyb Backstop on my shelf!

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:24 AM

Call me if they make him Stranglehold or something at least, the mold isn't really good enough to bother with in new colors that are just "okay". Looks like a lost movie 1 Target redeco scout.

Shame they couldn't come up with something for the other two. I don't get what the fixation is with releasing TF Cybertron scouts in multiple venues, unchanged.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

Can someone post the pic of Backstop locally for me? They are filtered for me.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

They're not in Generations. They don't say "Generations" on them.

About time Backstop got a redeco. Though I'm surprised that he's the only one of these in new colors.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:31 AM

The Backstop repaint looks good.
These are the same molds that were released unchanged for Universe 2.0.
I wonder why Hasbro would recolor only one of them.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Meister79 @ Jan 17 2011, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These are the same molds that were released unchanged for Universe 2.0.



Actually, I don't think Wreckloose was one of those, was he?

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:36 AM

QUOTE(J Gargoyle220 @ Jan 17 2011, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't get what the fixation is with releasing TF Cybertron scouts in multiple venues, unchanged.

Hasbro tends to use scouts as exclusives for the smaller stores and Cybertron was the last TF toyline to have decent scouts. Hasbro leaves them unchanged just to save money.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:38 AM

so when they gonna rerelease clocker then?

i could definately use one for a cybertron jurugar custom right now

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:41 AM

Yeah, Wreckloose hasn't seen release in a really long time.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Kil @ Jan 17 2011, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Meister79 @ Jan 17 2011, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These are the same molds that were released unchanged for Universe 2.0.



Actually, I don't think Wreckloose was one of those, was he?


Sure wasn't. The Wal-Mart trio were (and remain at some stores, a shame at two bucks a whack) Backstop, Brakedown, and Brushguard. This new wave also has some blue Jungle Planet Cyber Keys, so that's a little different too.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:54 AM

Yeah one of my local WalMarts found a stash of their last release (backstop, brakedown, brushguard in 25th anniversary packaging) and put them on the pegs for 2 bucks a pop.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:55 AM

That Backstop looks nice. I want it.

Odd and disappointing that Undermine and Wreckloose are unchanged, especially the latter.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can someone post the pic of Backstop locally for me? They are filtered for me.

Backstop looks nice. Much better than the original.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 11:09 AM

What... ARE these?

I mean, they aren't gold, so not RTS, but Generations doesn't have Scouts and they don't say "Generations" on them like the Deluxes, so...

Maybe a new Universe-style release for Dollar General and the like, this time with a repaint and a "new" figure?



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