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@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:02 PM)

If they were in the G1 continuity (which I doubt would happen), then yes. Otherwise, a reboot would likely be separate from G1 and the current Movieverse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 01:49 PM)

Characters from rebooted movies would most likely get their own pages.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

If Transformers movies ever gets rebooted and if they decide to do more G1ish designs, would TFWiki classify that Movie's Optimus or Megatron as G1 (maybe giving them sub-pages like the one for IDW Optimus) or would they give them their own pages. Just wondering.


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#21 Ms Virion

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 01:22 PM

*Crosses fingers for Hugo Strange*

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 01:38 PM

"The Dark Knight Rises" sounds more befitting the first movie in the series, but I'll give it a shot.
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:10 PM

I like the title, and frankly, I wasn't banking on Riddler. Not sure why, but everyone seemed to be certain it would be him.

Penguin has been ruled out before. I believe Catwoman has also... but who knows? Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy are both unlikely. So, let's take a look at who that leaves.

Talia al Ghul. This would tie in with the first movie as well, you get a strong villain... and she also fullfills the love interest role that Rachel Dawes left void when the Joker offed her.

Black Mask. He's never been done outside of comics and animation before, he could work.

Hush. Not likely, but I feel he is possible.

Bane. More likely than Hush, and he could be interesting if done right.

Harley Quinn. They already said they won't re-cast the Joker. But if they had concrete Joker plans, they could always give them to Harley.

Those are the five. that immediately come to mind.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:17 PM

Catwoman, Talia, Huge Strange, or Black Mask seem the most likely IMO.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for King Tut.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:20 PM

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I like the title, and frankly, I wasn't banking on Riddler. Not sure why, but everyone seemed to be certain it would be him.

Because a realistic, well-done Riddler could have seriously tested Batman's intellect, and really played up the "World's Greatest Detective" angle of his character. That sort of thing seems right up Nolan's alley, much more than a superhero romp.

Hugo Strange seems like he'd be an appropriate fit in that same vein, so that would be okay.

But I'd prefer not to see Penguin, Harley, Poison Ivy, Bane, or really anyone so obvious. A well-done Robin could be good, but Nolan has previously said he'd had no interest in going there.

Whatever they end up doing, I'm sure it'll be awesome. And will probably be Leonardo DiCaprio. Mark it down - you heard it here first. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:36 PM

Egghead.


done.


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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(skankerzero @ Oct 27 2010, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Egghead.


done.


Only if Bill Hader plays him.
Man does a hell of a Price impression.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:10 PM

I like Paul Dini's comment on the title: "The Dark Knight Rises. If the villain does turn out to be Catwoman, I can hear the snickering already."
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:22 PM

I hope Scarecrow pops up again. He and Bats have never had a proper face off.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Oct 27 2010, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope Scarecrow pops up again. He and Bats have never had a proper face off.


I've seen enough of him, personally.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Oct 27 2010, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope Scarecrow pops up again. He and Bats have never had a proper face off.


Nolan's definitely painting him as the thorn in Batman's side- which is good. Killing off Ra's and Two-Face closed the book on them a little too completely.

Now, Nolan said specifically that the villain would not be the Riddler. This doesn't necessarily preclude the Riddler from being in the movie, given A) some of the promo material we've seen has been Riddler themed and B) Nygma has spent a long time recently in the comics as a legitimate detective, which would provide a really great angle on the story: two of the world's greatest forensic minds square off against whatever threat the main antagonist of the movie poses. Maybe Nolan's Riddler will be intent on exposing the Batman, which would be a really fun story.

Thanks to some meddling in my perceptions by a certain Canadian fellow staffer, my money's on the recently cast Tom Hardy playing Tommy Elliott/Hush. But for the story to work like it did in the comics, it'd require Jason Todd.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:47 PM

I like the idea of Harley taking up with the Joker left off. I doubt she'd be the only antagonist, but I'd love to watch her on the big screen.

And another scuff with the Scarecrow would be neat. We'll see.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:14 PM

Two-Face should return. Yeah, I saw Dark Knight and ther ending , but is he really dead? I doubt it.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:24 PM

As fang said:

Nothing is stopping Edward Nigma from being in the movie.

He could be a forensic detective that ends up going mad at the end of the movie as he's trying to track down the same villain that Batman is tracking down.
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(fangwing @ Oct 27 2010, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks to some meddling in my perceptions by a certain Canadian fellow staffer, my money's on the recently cast Tom Hardy playing Tommy Elliott/Hush. But for the story to work like it did in the comics, it'd require Jason Todd.


Couldn't Rachael be an acceptable substitute in this case?


QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Oct 27 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like the idea of Harley taking up with the Joker left off. I doubt she'd be the only antagonist, but I'd love to watch her on the big screen.


I say Harley should be played by Milla Jovovich.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:52 PM

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:06 PM

As I've said before, Catwoman pretty much needs to show up in some form to resolve the in-joke foreshadowing from TDK (about the bat-suit being effective against cats). Dramatically, you just don't leave a perfect setup like that hanging. Plus, what with the copybats seen in TDK, a cat-themed catburglar makes logical sense as a progression. She'd also work as the romantic/UST lead.

And whatever Nolan says, I still think the Penguin would work as Gotham's newest Mob Boss --one who Batman and Gordon both know is dirty, but they can't make anything stick because he owns all the (surviving) lawyers. (Cue the irony; if Harvey was still around, he'd be able to put Penguin away: ergo, the Penguin's continuing reign is Batman's fault.)

As for the Riddler, we've never really seen Nolanverse Batman working as a detective --the bullet scene in TDK was him letting the computer do his work for him. If the arc of the Nolan trilogy is Bruce becoming the Batman we know and love, he needs to go up against an intellectual enemy, one who can force him to hone his own detective skills (as Scarecrow/Ra's al Ghul helped hone his psychological theatricality and Joker honed his relentlessness). Yes, make Nygma a hired investigator, out to unmask the Batman --Riddler has never really worked as a flat-out criminal; he's better when he's attacking Batman specifically.

Only drawback is that none of these are really a physical match for the all-important climactic set-piece battle. They'd need some hired muscle. Perhaps a professional assassin brought in by Nygma (or by Penguin to follow Nygma). Bane would be the obvious one, but reducing him to the dumb muscle kinda undermines what makes him a great character. Maybe Deadshot. . .

And yeah, I'm working under the assumption that this will be Nolan's last bat-movie. I just hope whoever follows him keeps the "Nolanverse" sensibility and doesn't try to reboot. This is the first filmic approach to Gotham city that has ever really grabbed me. Not as grimdark as the Keaton era, no giant statues, no over-the-top neon. . .

(That said, I am a fan of what Harold Ramis calls "the Domino approach" to reality: start with something perfectly realistic, then change one single [plausible] detail, then change another, then another, until you have a giant anthropomorphic marshmallow stomping through midtown and the audience still thinks it makes perfect sense. If Nolan wants to take a tiny little step toward cryo-based weaponry or biological reactions in silicate, or genetic research introducing chlorophyll into animal cells, then I certainly won't stop him.)

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:49 PM

I'd like to see Mr. Zsasz. He would fit in perfectly.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:52 PM

Ooh. I like the idea Riddler as sort of a rival. Antagonistic in that he's trying to unmask Batman, but not a villain... Maybe also going after the Bad Guy(s).

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE(skankerzero @ Oct 27 2010, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As fang said:

Nothing is stopping Edward Nigma from being in the movie.

He could be a forensic detective that ends up going mad at the end of the movie as he's trying to track down the same villain that Batman is tracking down.



So at that point I'd have to ask, why would we want that? Assuming there's a vanishingly small chance of another Batman after this, at least with Nolan at the helm, why would we want the move to waste time on setting up a character that will never be realized?



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