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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 11:09 AM)

Mayhem is, somewhat ironically, one of the least random parts of the board. I really don't know how that happened.


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#281 Wheelimus

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(J Gargoyle220 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dragstrip @ Oct 14 2010, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm hoping we did indeed get HeTellMeish information, and Rumble and Frenzy combine into a DELUXE sized tank. That would make their robot modes perfect size to display with Music Label Soundwave.


Seems likely, considering the Ice Cream Twins toy. That would really erase a lot of my qualms with this release, what with Frenzy and Rumble being potentially too big, and taking a voyager slot when guys like Galvatron, Straxus, and Thunderwing didn't even get to be voyagers. I really hope you're right.


Unless BBTS has bad info the overall figure is in the same size class as Megatron and Grapple. If there is a combined tank it would be a lot bigger than deluxe.

Since we're all pulling them from the same place, lol, I'll just toss out a guess that the two figures are scout sized and make a slightly undersized Voyager.

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#282 Bass X0

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:49 AM

Attached piledrivers:

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:51 AM

Um...Hopefully that looks better in color?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:53 AM

Well, that explains the black bit. They're the pile drivers. We now KNOW that tank mode is just Frenzy.

#285 Wheelimus

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Oct 14 2010, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Wheelimus @ Oct 14 2010, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course we could all just call our toys what we prefer and avoid the whole debate. Thus far Hasbro hasn't shown up at our houses and shot any of us in the head because we called Darkmount "Straxus." YET!

Surely this argument could have been made without the "shot us in the head" hyperbole. (Seriously, people who do this kind of thing make it sound like, unless there's the potential for it to be life-or-death, it shouldn't matter at all. We don't need to go so far to say that, perhaps, it shouldn't matter).

There are plenty of reasons to try to get things right. And plenty of much more reasonable reasons why no one else (much less Hasbro) should care what we call them.


I'm not arguing that people shouldn't care, I'm arguing that some care a little too much. But that's just me, a LOT of the things this fandom does irk me. I really can't imagine ever paying 3 times US retail to just get a mildly better paint job, for example. To each their own and all but it doesn't make sense to me.

I came into this addiction as a 'toon fan. For me, Rumble will always be blue. If someone thinks he's red, have at it.

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#286 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:55 AM

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Attached piledrivers:

I've never been a fan of the cartoon-style piledrivers, but so long as they don't make it so the toy has no hands at all (a la Alternators), I have no real problem. They're a neat accessory.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:57 AM

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Of course we could all just call our toys what we prefer and avoid the whole debate. Thus far Hasbro hasn't shown up at our houses and shot any of us in the head because we called Darkmount "Straxus." YET!

Surely this argument could have been made without the "shot us in the head" hyperbole. (Seriously, people who do this kind of thing make it sound like, unless there's the potential for it to be life-or-death, it shouldn't matter at all. We don't need to go so far to say that, perhaps, it shouldn't matter).

There are plenty of reasons to try to get things right. And plenty of much more reasonable reasons why no one else (much less Hasbro) should care what we call them.


I'm not arguing that people shouldn't care, I'm arguing that some care a little too much. But that's just me, a LOT of the things this fandom does irk me.

Fair enough, and I'll certainly concede being guilty of this myself. But, to go the other direction, surely something short of potential murder could be cited as a reason why a fan could justify caring, yes?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:58 AM

Yeah pile drivers in place of real arms suck. Having them in addition to is quite cool.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:02 AM

Wheeljack - I don't think I'm as psyched as most others here, but I am very happy to finally be getting a deluxe G1 Wheeljack to finally go alongside my UT Wheelshifts and SG Wheeljack. I guess we all kind of knew he was going to be a Tracks remold, so I was resigned to thinking there'd be no surprises. However, I'm really glad to see that they did put some effort into him. The car mode looks nicely different, and the modified wingtips help really sell this as Wheejack vs a Tracks remold. Repurposing the missile launchers as tools is creative in a cute way, but I'll be keeping them in place as shoulder weapons a la Tracks.

Frenzy - Looks pretty great, really. Didn't ever expect him as a tank, and this means that the usual scale problems are at work, but it's a good looking tank (looks like ROTF Bludgeon crossed with Energon Kickback) and the bot mode looks nice - I really like how the turrets approximate his back-mounted blasters. I wonder what the situation with Rumble will be - at this point, based on how small Frenzy looks, it may just be a non-combining 2-pack.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:12 AM

Not bad... not bad at all. Hopefully we'll see a North American release of these figures soon.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:13 AM

Not bad... not bad at all. Hopefully we'll see a North American release of these figures soon.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:13 AM

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Oh, sweet Jesus - TEH FLAMEZ! Make them go away!

Oh, and just like "Prime has flames now" because of the goddamned Bay movies, Rumble IS blue, because of the cartoon.


..... you do realize Laser OP had flames back in G2 right? His entire theme was fire, and giant explosions which spelt out his damn name! I know you have a compulsion to screech about the current movies whenever you have the chance, but do your research first.

And as for coloring on Rumble and Frenzy even the original show didn't get this right, as the show's bible had the correct color listed for Rumble, as in he was called a RED robot. This all just came about because the people doing the animation just didn't care enough in their work to follow simple instructions. Keep in mind when the show reached Japan, the mistake was rectified.

Fortunately, Hasbro has always kept the correct colors, and with Kyde working on this line, and knowing what he is doing here, this toy we have seen will happily be his proper colors and be a blue Frenzy.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:20 AM

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Oh, sweet Jesus - TEH FLAMEZ! Make them go away!

Oh, and just like "Prime has flames now" because of the goddamned Bay movies, Rumble IS blue, because of the cartoon.


..... you do realize Laser OP had these flames back in G2 right? I know you have a compulsion to screech about the current movies whenever you have the chance, but do your research first.


No, he doesn't. It's just a transition from red to black.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:22 AM

On the other hand, his trailer featured flames prominently, so it seems more about blending the deco a bit.

The flames are better than the red to black fade, anyways. That never really made much sense.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:23 AM

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Oh, sweet Jesus - TEH FLAMEZ! Make them go away!

Oh, and just like "Prime has flames now" because of the goddamned Bay movies, Rumble IS blue, because of the cartoon.


..... you do realize Laser OP had these flames back in G2 right? I know you have a compulsion to screech about the current movies whenever you have the chance, but do your research first.


No, he doesn't. It's just a transition from red to black.

Look at the trailer...

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:23 AM

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I'm hoping we did indeed get HeTellMeish information, and Rumble and Frenzy combine into a DELUXE sized tank. That would make their robot modes perfect size to display with Music Label Soundwave.


Seems likely, considering the Ice Cream Twins toy. That would really erase a lot of my qualms with this release, what with Frenzy and Rumble being potentially too big, and taking a voyager slot when guys like Galvatron, Straxus, and Thunderwing didn't even get to be voyagers. I really hope you're right.


Unless BBTS has bad info the overall figure is in the same size class as Megatron and Grapple. If there is a combined tank it would be a lot bigger than deluxe.

Since we're all pulling them from the same place, lol, I'll just toss out a guess that the two figures are scout sized and make a slightly undersized Voyager.

Seriously, he's scout sized. You can calculate his exact size from the clips on his forearms, which are 2cm. He's about 11cm tall, minus the back guns.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:27 AM

Wheeljack looks pretty neat, but I'd like to see him painted.

Rumble looks okay. Hopefully he'll be small so he doesn't look weird standing next to soundwave.

g2 Prime looks okay, but he kind of reminds me of Energon Optimus Prime. that's not a good thing.

Scourge looks great. He'd be better if his wings looked more like the animation model.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:29 AM

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Of course we could all just call our toys what we prefer and avoid the whole debate. Thus far Hasbro hasn't shown up at our houses and shot any of us in the head because we called Darkmount "Straxus." YET!

Surely this argument could have been made without the "shot us in the head" hyperbole. (Seriously, people who do this kind of thing make it sound like, unless there's the potential for it to be life-or-death, it shouldn't matter at all. We don't need to go so far to say that, perhaps, it shouldn't matter).

There are plenty of reasons to try to get things right. And plenty of much more reasonable reasons why no one else (much less Hasbro) should care what we call them.


I'm not arguing that people shouldn't care, I'm arguing that some care a little too much. But that's just me, a LOT of the things this fandom does irk me.

Fair enough, and I'll certainly concede being guilty of this myself. But, to go the other direction, surely something short of potential murder could be cited as a reason why a fan could justify caring, yes?


Well you may be caring a little too much about that too. It's just an expression that doesn't really mean Hasbro is literally going to shoot someone in the head. Could have just as easily been "Thus far Hasbro hasn't shown up at our houses and peed in our Frosted Flakes because we called Darkmount "Straxus."

YET! The point being though that Hasbro couldn't care less, and when you get down to it neither should we. It's just a little baffling that the same fandom that spawns a massive repurposing thread also spawns RIRFIB FIRRIB. Call them Hokey Pokey 1 and 2 for all I care, so long as people let me call them what I want.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:30 AM

And just like that, I'm skipping Tracks because Wheeljack is every bit as awesome as he needs to be. The Tracks version just doesn't quite pull it off well enough, and I have the Alternator version of Tracks which is, in my opinion, quite a bit better anyway.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:39 AM

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And just like that, I'm skipping Tracks because Wheeljack is every bit as awesome as he needs to be. The Tracks version just doesn't quite pull it off well enough, and I have the Alternator version of Tracks which is, in my opinion, quite a bit better anyway.


And then someday you're going to look at your near complete cast of deluxe "Classics" cars and your Alt. Tracks towering over them. And then you'll buy this Tracks. Probably for twice retail. Just do the sensible thing and go ahead and buy it now to keep sealed. Either in a couple of years you'll be glad you did when you wind up wanting it, or you'll wind up having a valuable sealed toy!

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