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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.


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#1 ExVee

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:12 AM

Quite a bit of remolding that I guess nobody's clearly seen before outside of Botcon?
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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:15 AM

That is looking VERY nice.

Best guess the Takara one will be a deep Orange.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:16 AM

It's amazing how much better he looks than Inferno. Yellow just suits that mold way more than Red.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:18 AM

I'm just entertained how far they had to go to be able to even get the toy named close to the original name.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:45 AM

Wow! Hasbro went the extra mile in terms of retooling this guy! I wouldn't have expected anything beyond the new crane, but here we are with new hands, feet, forearms, and head. Very nice.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:48 AM

J Gargoyle.... you win. They did do one and it looks good.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:51 AM

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"Solar Storm Grapple" sounds like some kind of weird old anime series or something...

I keep wanting to see this name as a demented homage to the Phoenix King...

It does look nice!

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:12 AM

I'd probably be unable to resist the urge to call mine "Erector"

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:16 AM

QUOTE(Pennpenn @ Oct 2 2010, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd probably be unable to resist the urge to call mine "Erector"


Actually Movie Mudflap would be a better Erector.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 03:47 AM

QUOTE(Autobus Prime @ Oct 2 2010, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Solar Storm Grapple" sounds like some kind of weird old anime series or something...


"Legendary Construction King: Solar Storm Grappel!"

This is so very bought.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 04:17 AM

This reminds me of Tenchi Muyo! GXP where Tennan finds out every lucky ship name has been registered and left with nothing else except one that sounds like jive.

Also Lord Bravery who had to change his name to Lord Smoked Meats and Fishes.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:43 AM

Can I get one in blue, please?


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 06:03 AM

Feels like there should be a few more alt mode paint apps, particularly on the crane boom.

I appreciate the heavy use of remolding; makes me feel less dumb for buying a 3rd version of the mold.

Name change is hilarious.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 06:16 AM

Poor Grapple is completely defenseless, though.
Hasbro perhaps should've thought about giving him a gun-hand like the original toy/character model had.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:01 AM

Too mad about the lack of a gun not that he was known for fighting, but he is a soldier. What with the way the hands are molded, it's like they were make to hold Wrek-Gar's handle bars?

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:35 AM

So I guess "Grappel Grip Mudflap" was not an accident, then?

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE(Nevermore @ Oct 2 2010, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I guess "Grappel Grip Mudflap" was not an accident, then?


Seeing as Grappel is now his 'offical' name, that sounds more like an adventure game command then a toy name.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:20 AM

Man he looks great!

I really hope Takara does a full on orange head and body. I'm still impressed with the amount of retooling on this guy, the head, the crane, the forearms, the panels on the arms, the feet. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Oct 2 2010, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Feels like there should be a few more alt mode paint apps, particularly on the crane boom.

I appreciate the heavy use of remolding; makes me feel less dumb for buying a 3rd version of the mold.

Name change is hilarious.

agree it looks really plain, and little to yellow

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE(Database @ Oct 2 2010, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nevermore @ Oct 2 2010, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I guess "Grappel Grip Mudflap" was not an accident, then?


Seeing as Grappel is now his 'offical' name, that sounds more like an adventure game command then a toy name.

Yes. "Adventure" game. icon-wildride.gif



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