Uh, since when are they clearly labeled?
He was talking about all KO's and the fandom's response to KO's in general, not just this one.
Although, personally, I'm fine with a reproduction that doesn't have "KNOCKOFF" on it in big letters, as long as it is always sold as reproduction. I don't buy prints of famous paintings that have "REPRODUCTION" on them in big letters, either. There are plenty of examples, even among collectibles, where an accurate reproduction is considered a virtue, and only passing it off as an original is frowned upon.
Hasbro has never been a major factor as far as reissues are concerned.
They're the only factor when it comes to re-issues in North American stores; the existence of a TakaraTomy product is meaningless if Hasbro doesn't feel like doing something with it. I'm in absolutely no place to relate my impressions of the Asian TF fandom's responses, so I left Takara and Japanese fans out of my post.
And I have it on good authority from a fan with connections in TakaraTomy that KOs have long caused them to not bother reissuing certain figures, especially combiners
Which is why my post included an entire paragraph talking about this, using a combiner set as a specific example. As you noted, though, the Swoop toy mentioned in this thread is not that sort of KO. I'm very skeptical that TakaraTomy is meaningfully cowed by the release of a very expensive Dinobot KO of inconsistent quality. Any Takara re-release would cost less and be sturdier, and would therefore face no meaningful competition from the existing KO. If Takara's not re-issuing Swoop, the toy in this thread has nothing to do with it.
But that doesn't mean I'm OK with counterfeits that can and have been used to rip people off
Fair enough, but it sounds to me more like your problem is with what people do with the reproduction toys, rather than with the toys themselves. Certainly, plenty of official re-issues have been sold by unscrupulous folks as G1 originals, even to the degree of being sold with authentic G1 packaging or accessories. Do you have a problem with official re-issues because they "can and have been used to rip people off"?
Not to mention that neither TakaraTomy nor Hasbro profits off of them.
Yep, this is undeniable. But, my sense is that the reason TF fans considering KO's seem to "accept them for the most part" is that neither TakaraTomy nor Hasbro seems to want
to profit from these toys. By and large (and with the exception I already mentioned), if they did, they would.
I'd rather not give my money to companies that blatantly steal IP, especially given that counterfeiters in China often have ties to the Triad.
Again, fair enough, but it sounds to me like this is again a problem with specific people, and not the concept of KO's in general, which is what I was discussing in my post.
I'd point out, however, that the reach of organised crime is rather sweeping, and it's rather hard to live anywhere in China without putting money in the hands of the Triad. If you live in a large city in Japan, you are most likely putting money into the hands of organised crime on a daily basis. I'm not saying that it's unavoidable, but rather that being concerned about the money trail for expensive reproduction toys, but not for more mundane purchases, is a little fickle. Perhaps you're very careful about such matters. Quite a few people are, and that's a good thing. Honestly, though, I'm not, and I suspect most of the TF fandom isn't, which comes back to my point that most of us don't seem to mind as long as intentional misrepresentation about the toys isn't involved.
Incidentally, I usually don't buy KO's. I think in my entire toy-buying career, I've spent maybe a combined total of $40 on unofficial toys, mostly when I get them on a whim for cheap at the drug store. My point is just that I can see why plenty of people don't generally have a problem with it.