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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

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Fraggle Rock!

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Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

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Hard Rock Hallelujah!

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Soggy Rock

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Tank Concrete!

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the Third.

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Flint Chesthair!

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Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

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Fancypants

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Biggles.

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Jones.

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#61 TrentTroop

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Aug 4 2010, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 3 2010, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel that way a bit too. As it got a lot of attention for a year, and I welcome the return to the normal TF Universe this year.


So does that mean SG is on its way out, or will it wind up in the background?

I'm trying to decide if I want to go ahead and join the collector's club, especially since the figure next year is RiD Sideburn and it's not looking like I'll be able to get a vintage guy.

But I was never keen on SG in the first place (has there been an issue in which someone didn't get killed? G2 burned me out on all that), and so with me losing a good chunk of my financial aid due to being a grad student money's gotten a lot tighter. That's making it all the harder to justify the $60 membership fee.


No one died in Generation 2 Redeux and there may or may not have been deaths in Wings of Honor, as those events are left kinda vague. I don't think we've killed anyone off in any of the SG Text stories either.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE(TrentTroop @ Aug 3 2010, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one died in Generation 2 Redeux and there may or may not have been deaths in Wings of Honor, as those events are left kinda vague. I don't think we've killed anyone off in any of the SG Text stories either.

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I'm talking about the Marvel-era G2 stuff; it seems like in the US comics, someone died every single issue.

As far as SG goes, just about every time I read a summary of the comics it seems like someone or other is getting slagged.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Aug 3 2010, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as SG goes, just about every time I read a summary of the comics it seems like someone or other is getting slagged.

In Reunification a few people got bumped off, but the text stories are actually the bulk of the SG storyline and are pretty light-hearted on the whole. I think I'd try actually reading the stories before making too many assumptions.

Same for people who think that two comic issues + 5 short stories over the course of a year somehow equals overplayed. I mean, yeah, SG got a lot of attention for a year... because in the past few years the TFCC has ALWAYS focused on the same universe in its fiction for a year. So... yeah.

Now TransTech, on the other hand... "I, Lowtech" racked up a pretty good body count.

But, SG is more or less over AFAIK, in that there's only one prose story left in the works for the storyline.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:18 PM

Don't think SG is overplayed myself, just mostly uninteresting. On the whole I'd much rather read about the "real" TF universe, than this "opposite" tangent.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Aug 3 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't think SG is overplayed myself, just mostly uninteresting. On the whole I'd much rather read about the "real" TF universe, than this "opposite" tangent.

...have you actually read the stories/characterizations? One might complain about them being whimsical/cheesy depending on your tastes for such things, but I'm not sure I'd go with "uninteresting".

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:34 PM

I'm not a fan of the Universe Ravage figure. I'm glad he's in 3-D compared to the original, but the head is pretty bad. The new Device Label Ravage is much nicer when mine isn't breaking into a million pieces. Too bad that we'll never get a SG Ravage/Glit out of that mold.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:57 PM

I'm brand new to the SG stuff (after having resisted it mightily for over a year), so I'm a ways off from being sick of any of it just yet.

I'm actually kinda hoping they return to that theme for the next Botcon, like the teaser image makes me suspect.

Edited by Sean Whitmore, 03 August 2010 - 09:58 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:58 PM

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Stupid fun! Always ruining my bad time!


Who said I don't like fun things? 2010's boxset is my second favorite that FP has done yet, because it's so damn fun. SG Ravage though, to me, is a one line joke/meme that I keep seeing over and over and over.

QUOTE(Dissever @ Aug 3 2010, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems easy enough to avoid, to the point that at least two of us here have done completely so by accident. Is the saturation really that bad?


I'm sure it just depends on what type of stuff you frequent. We got the toy from BotCon, I read Shortpacked so I saw him for a week there of course, and a few other random times in the past, then I got BotCon's twitter feed that had SG Ravage's profile card on it one day, then the strip. One of those "perfect storm" of white kittehs I guess you could say =P

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:11 PM

I look forward to ravageminusravage.com, the website that edits SG Ravage out of Recordicons strips with hilarious and surreal results.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:18 PM

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I look forward to ravageminusravage.com, the website that edits SG Ravage out of Recordicons strips with hilarious and surreal results.



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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE(Jeysie @ Aug 4 2010, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now TransTech, on the other hand... "I, Lowtech" racked up a pretty good body count.


Well, to be fair, it was a (mass) murder story, probably the darkest thing I've written, TF-wise, though still lighter than the original outline.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE(TrentTroop @ Aug 3 2010, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeysie @ Aug 4 2010, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now TransTech, on the other hand... "I, Lowtech" racked up a pretty good body count.

Well, to be fair, it was a (mass) murder story, probably the darkest thing I've written, TF-wise, though still lighter than the original outline.

Oh, I'm not complaining in the slightest... "I, Lowtech" is still my favorite story from you guys. Was just saying that if he was looking to avoid stories with lots of people getting offed, SG wasn't exactly the universe to worry about.

And I'm now intrigued by the thought that the original outline was actually darker than the end result. Cause, damn.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:30 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 3 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I look forward to ravageminusravage.com, the website that edits SG Ravage out of Recordicons strips with hilarious and surreal results.




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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:49 PM

This thread is now awesome. Also, I'm out a future Recordicons strip.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:51 PM

What I want to know is if Ravage has seen that Breakdancing Soundwave video!


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Posted 04 August 2010 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE(Jeysie @ Aug 3 2010, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...have you actually read the stories/characterizations? One might complain about them being whimsical/cheesy depending on your tastes for such things, but I'm not sure I'd go with "uninteresting".


If the dividing line between people who like and dislike SG is whether or not they've read it, the dividing line for SG Ravage seems to be pretty much whether or not you enjoy lolcats, or at least enjoy hating them. I kind of find that funny, because nothing about him is actually lolcat in origin, really - he's just the physical manifestation of Twitter....

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Aug 4 2010, 05:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 3 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I look forward to ravageminusravage.com, the website that edits SG Ravage out of Recordicons strips with hilarious and surreal results.




Well, someone had to.

...this is something that needs to be explored further.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:54 AM

It was cute at first, but it got tired.

But oh god, I want the Scorch and SG Ravage toys.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 05:23 AM

QUOTE(Kalimol @ Aug 4 2010, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the dividing line between people who like and dislike SG is whether or not they've read it, the dividing line for SG Ravage seems to be pretty much whether or not you enjoy lolcats, or at least enjoy hating them. I kind of find that funny, because nothing about him is actually lolcat in origin, really - he's just the physical manifestation of Twitter....

I wouldn't say the dividing line is really such... I'm sure there's people who have read it that don't like it.

It's just that for the most part, the people I see saying it's tired or uninspired are either folks that I don't recall being TFCC members, or (on the TFCC boards mostly) people who say they haven't read the prose. *shrug*

(So... not that I can blame them I suppose, as on the surface the idea sounds kind of tired. But I found the way SG was done to be surprisingly creative... or at least surprisingly whimsical. And it hasn't had all that much more fiction than TransTech had.)

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 05:25 AM

From what I've read about SG, it sounds a lot like G1 but well written and, well, in reverse.



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