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@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.


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#1 1stStageMidboss

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:41 AM

I'm thinking about buying a Nintendo 64, but I dunno if there's really enough games that I want, considering many of the console's big hitters, like Mario 64 and the Zelda games, are on later Nintendo consoles which I already own. So I felt I should ask - what is there on N64, but not Wii, DS, or Gamecube, that would make it worth buying one? They have to have been released in Europe (which I imagine most will have been), and I have no interest in first-person shooters, but if there are enough good games of whatever type then I might well buy one.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:46 AM

I would say Goldeneye...but yeah anti-FPS.


the pokemon stadium games are always good for a few hours of senseless fun

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:02 AM

No FPS or shooters? but that was it's whole bit besides Mario and Zelda!
The only other highly rated games were:
Harvest Moon 64
Space Station Silicon Valley
Blast Corps
Ridge Racer 64
Super Smash Bros
Banjo Kazooie
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 10:04 AM

Blast Corps! Probably my favorite N64 game of all time! icon-silverbolt.gif Oh, how I'd love a sequel.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Tornadron @ Jun 4 2010, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No FPS or shooters? but that was it's whole bit besides Mario and Zelda!

Yeah, you're right. I think I'll buy a Dreamcast instead, since there's more games for that that I'd like to get.
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 01:59 AM

Wipeout
Any Rush
Conkers
Tetrispher
Mistchif Makers
Killer Instict Gold
Extream G2
Starwars Shadows of the Emprire


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Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:12 AM

Too bad too few N64 games have been ported to the DS/DSi but thank god for reliable hardware!
Something tells me I will be able to pic up and play Turok and Body Harvest long after my 360 has died and become irreplacable.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:26 AM

Get an emulator and try some out. icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:40 AM

HARVEST MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON.

Seriously, holy balls. That game devoured an entire summer vacation for me.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:29 AM

Bomberman 64 and F-Zero X.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 06:35 PM

Hybrid Heaven and Body Harvest. Two very unappreciated, and kick ass games.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 06:52 PM

Mystical Ninja starring Goemon.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 03:31 PM

Transformers Beast Wars: Transmetals
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

No, I think this is about good games.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:00 PM

Yeah, looks like you'd have more fun with the Dreamcast, but if you ever decide to get a N64, a few games I'd like to point out:

Well I'd 'like' to suggest the two Castlevania 64 games, but I completely understand I'm in a major minority for loving those games.

I'd definitely suggest the first Paper Mario, as I think it was only relased on the N64, and it's a great RPG.

BomberMan Hero. Really, it's an awsome platformer.

I suggest the Resident Evil 2 port if you like those kinda games. I liked the N64 port mainly for the extra files and such thrown into the game.

Were the Rouge Squadron's ever released for other systems? I only have the first one, but it's pretty fun.

Star Fox 64. Great game, and I don't recall it being ported.

Kirby The Crystal Shards. My first and sadly only Kirby game. But it sure was fun! Again, pretty sure it was never ported, but I could be wrong.

Mario Kart 64 is still pretty good.

If you like Pokemon, I suggest giving Pokemon Snap a try once. Don't pay a lot for it. Once you beat the game, it'll be a long time before you go back to it.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:26 PM

^ Except Kirby, Starfox, and Paper Mario are available on virtual console....

I'll reccomend Donkey Kong 64. I used to play that at my friends house all the time!

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Zek Patterson @ Jun 12 2010, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ Except Kirby, Starfox, and Paper Mario are available on virtual console....

I'll reccomend Donkey Kong 64. I used to play that at my friends house all the time!


I KNEW there was a way to play them on newer consoles. I keep forgetting about Virtual Console as I usually have all the games listed there on their ACTUAL consoles.

So yeah, maybe not those three.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Jun 12 2010, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I think this is about good games.


I said "good", not "great". Most people have been listing "great" games is all. Plus, being a Transformers fan tends to help, and I hope you understand why I took the liberty of assuming someone posting here would be. XD
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 09:37 PM

most of the ones mentioned are great. but im surprised no one mentioned
Jet Force Gemini
and Banjo-kazooie

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