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@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.


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#1 lonegamer8

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:47 AM

Last Stand of the Wreckers #5 out Wednesday May 19, 2010.

Prepare to have our souls be reaped in the whirlwind for a whole world of pain! In which more than half of us will die screaming, or come close to it. *is bricked for bad/mangled Furmanisms*

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:28 AM

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 11:58 AM

Did not waste time with this one.

Didn't wait to get home to read it...
Didn't even open the heroclix until after I was done...

Damn... just.... Damn
spoilers are a stabbing weight upon my soul.... crushing it into a dark existential nothingness

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 12:51 PM

Yeah it was super awesome.

HIGHLIGHT to view:
Besides the things we saw in the preview like Guzzle getting torn in half and Pyro getting killed.

I loved the scene where Impactor executed Squadron X, as it showed that war is dirty.

Prowl continues to be awesome.

Overlord tearing off Springer's face and looking at it reminded me of the Devil's Rejects.

Surprisingly Guzzle and Impactor survived. Showing how the creative team can just take all your preconceptions and turn them around.

Poor sweet Ironfist.

I did not expect Overlord to make it out, especially after he lost his skin.

I loved this series.



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Posted 19 May 2010 - 12:59 PM

Ha! Impactor was inspired to switch his hand out for a harpoon after encountering a certain dimension-hopping freelance peacekeeping agent!

But yeah, this was sex and candy. Goodnight, sweet Ironfist.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 01:10 PM

This was a GREAT ISSUE. The hidden comedy gems are great. When Springer got his BMFG he said sweet! When Overlord ripped off Springer's face, he said sweet. AHAHHAHHAHAHA. Honestly having Guzzle survive beeing ripped in half is a testament to his toughness. I knew he would survive. Ironfist was bittersweet. He died from an invention of his own doing. And someone on here pegged that the hole in his noggin was from an accident. And Overlord should have died. I was hoping maybe Megatron would come in as a shocker and make good on his word. But Im glad if it was any bunch of bots to do in a powerhouse such as Overlord, its the Wreckers. Even though he survived all they threw at him. Such a beautiful mix of grit, death, humor and good story telling. Just how nasty and fun for some, war can be. Roche and Roberts... BRAVO BRAVO!!!

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 02:26 PM

Awesome conclusion to a great series... But I have one question where is Grimlock? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 02:48 PM

Death count was lower than I expected, and definitely not everyone I expected.

Still, an awesome read as always. I thought for sure Springer had bought it after that blow from Overlord... Yikes.

I think my only complaint here would be that Pyro's death scene was too quick. Something a little more, especially since he had that giant weapons platform, would've been nice. Make the reader feel a bit more like his death meant something, to fully redeem him from his comments last issue.

Otherwise, though... Holy crap. IDW needs to give these guys more, be it more mini-series on the side, plenty of Spotlights or even an ongoing title.
Otherwise, it's an utter waste of talent. And the sales speak for themselves, after a rocky start it got some pretty good numbers.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 19 May 2010 - 02:58 PM

Yeah, I would have liked to have seen Pyro taking out tons of Decepticons before eventually buying it.

It seems like he was just piled up on and ripped apart with little to no fight.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:05 PM

That was a HELL of a series. I'm sad/happy/tearful/shocked/horrorfied and more.

I'll just dispense with spoiler tags and say DONT READ IF YOU HAVNT YET:

The death count was much lower then expected, but those deaths hurt. As happy as I was to see Guzzle and Impactor pull through... damn, Pyro, almost Springer... and IRONFIST. God, Ironfists death HURT. Especially with Verity there crying beside him, and rewriting everything he said.

And hug me, Overlord Just. Wouldn't. Die. Damn, and to see his goal ripped from him like that.... damn. And ordering the execution of the prisoners? Holeecrap.

Damn. Best series ever.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:07 PM

Wow. Good stuff. And it looks like Guzzle's cleaning up in Vegas with luck like that.

Glad of that. Liked the stocky little SOG.

Way I see it, Pyro went out perfect. Like a chump, but a chump doing the right thing. No glory, no impossible last stand. Just buying a tiny bit of time.

Dying a hero in a huge wall of explosions and badassery wouldn't, well, be learning his lesson in a way.

(Also, the psych profile's bit on his mental condition was golden. And yay Death's Head.)

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:39 PM

I don't think I can really add anything to what's already been said, aside from this being a satisfying conclusion. A small part of me wonders how the end fits in with the ongoing - its clearly somewhere after the events of #6 of the Ongoing, but beyond that, I'd love a firm idea of how it fits in.

Glad that Impactor survived, and equally glad to see three profiles in this issue. Also...good lord, I'd love a new toy for Guzzle. Repaint/remold the Cyb. Scrapmetal figure, and we'd get a perfect match for his look here, albeit slightly lankier. Now we just need that version of Ironfist from the Club comic and a new toy for Rotorstorm, and this bunch would have a set of new toys just waiting to go.

Now, what's left this month? Another issue of the Ongoing?


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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(chiasaur11 @ May 19 2010, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Way I see it, Pyro went out perfect. Like a chump, but a chump doing the right thing. No glory, no impossible last stand. Just buying a tiny bit of time.

Dying a hero in a huge wall of explosions and badassery wouldn't, well, be learning his lesson in a way.

Kinda hard to learn a lesson when you're dead.

I didn't mean a hero's death like in his fantasy... just the chance to take a 'Con or two with him is all. I mean, he had that big weapons platform with him...

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(Echowarrior @ May 19 2010, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad that Impactor survived, and equally glad to see three profiles in this issue. Also...good lord, I'd love a new toy for Guzzle. Repaint/remold the Cyb. Scrapmetal figure, and we'd get a perfect match for his look here, albeit slightly lankier. Now we just need that version of Ironfist from the Club comic and a new toy for Rotorstorm, and this bunch would have a set of new toys just waiting to go.


ROTF Brawn repaint as Guzzle. It'd be PERFECT.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ May 19 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Echowarrior @ May 19 2010, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad that Impactor survived, and equally glad to see three profiles in this issue. Also...good lord, I'd love a new toy for Guzzle. Repaint/remold the Cyb. Scrapmetal figure, and we'd get a perfect match for his look here, albeit slightly lankier. Now we just need that version of Ironfist from the Club comic and a new toy for Rotorstorm, and this bunch would have a set of new toys just waiting to go.


ROTF Brawn repaint as Guzzle. It'd be PERFECT.


Yeah, but ROTF Brawn is a big, bulky fella so far as his size class is concerned. Guzzle, by contrast, is small and bulky, and I was also thinking of alt-mode accuracy as well as looks.
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Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:50 PM

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ May 19 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ROTF Brawn repaint as Guzzle. It'd be PERFECT.

Actually I think ROTF Brawn works better as an updated Ironfist icon-fire.gif

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 04:33 PM

I like how Pyro added the faceplate after the fact, due to his obsession with being Optimus Prime. So the Botcon figure not having one is a Pyro who isn't as obsessed with being Optimus Prime.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(1987olds442 @ May 19 2010, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ May 19 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ROTF Brawn repaint as Guzzle. It'd be PERFECT.

Actually I think ROTF Brawn works better as an updated Ironfist icon-fire.gif


Whoa, yeah. That is really perfect. I'd buy that. Hell, ROTF Brawn is supposed to have UNBREAKABLE FISTS even!

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Wildwade @ May 19 2010, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(1987olds442 @ May 19 2010, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ May 19 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ROTF Brawn repaint as Guzzle. It'd be PERFECT.

Actually I think ROTF Brawn works better as an updated Ironfist icon-fire.gif


Whoa, yeah. That is really perfect. I'd buy that. Hell, ROTF Brawn is supposed to have UNBREAKABLE FISTS even!


Just be sure it has the little black circle in the noggin.