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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:40 AM

http://www.botcon.co...yte-preview.cfm

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:43 AM

Nice. Too bad they got scooped.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:46 AM

Yeah, but these are better pictures

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:59 AM

Looks pretty swell. If FP was as good at getting the rest of their act together as they are with this year's crop of toys, we'd all be laughing right now.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 12:31 PM

Impressive! I think I like this toy the most out of the bunch.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 12:37 PM

Awesome job on this one. I love the painted details and colors. Just awesome.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 12:37 PM

And I'd have probably foolishly renewed my membership instead of paying important bills.

I mean, I still want to renew, just broke and in debt. >.>
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 12:39 PM

Ok if I were to be able to buy this toy normally I would in a heartbeat. Hasbro dropped the ball making this a Con exclusive. It's beautiful as Sky-Byte. My biggest curiosity however is the Predacon marking on him? Are we gonna have a crossover event with Sky-byte coming in from R.I.D.? Is this a Beast Wars era Predacon from the future? Man the biggest thing I actually look forward to from botcon every year is the Comic and this year could look to be interesting.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 12:53 PM

I love they eyes on the "shark" mode.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:04 PM

Well, I've stared at the face too long trying to figure out why some people don't like it. Now the grimace has turned into a mustache and the top of his head into a Conquistador helmet.

Can't...stop..laughing!

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:13 PM


QUOTE(Daith @ May 14 2010, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My biggest curiosity however is the Predacon marking on him? Are we gonna have a crossover event with Sky-byte coming in from R.I.D.? Is this a Beast Wars era Predacon from the future?


Does it really matter?

People are excited about this toy because it's Sky-Byte, the hilarious poet from RID. The "official story" could make him into some totally separate character from another dimension (or an analogue or predecessor from the same one, or whatever), and I think 99% of purchasers won't care and will go on considering him to be the Sky-Byte from RID in just a new, different body. SEE ALSO: ROTF Bludgeon, a meaningless nobody who never did anything interesting or important but that everybody loves because they see him as G1 Bludgeon.



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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:14 PM

I'm wondering if he has the asymmetrical eyes or not.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 14 2010, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ROTF Bludgeon, a meaningless nobody who never did anything interesting...

He hit Ironhide with a palm tree.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:36 PM

I think it's supposed to be the G1/G2 universe counterpart to the RiD character, so he will probably have a similar personality. He's supposed to be one of the earliest Predacons in this continuity. This story still eventually leads to Beast Wars you know, which comes after G2. I hope we see his boss as Razorclaw (in Botcon exclusive form).

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:46 PM

Well RID/CR is linked to G1 via Kiss Players, so it could be the same guy (though I think Pete said he was the G1 universe Sky Byte).

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ May 14 2010, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I've stared at the face too long trying to figure out why some people don't like it. Now the grimace has turned into a mustache and the top of his head into a Conquistador helmet.

Can't...stop..laughing!

Personally I don't hate it, but he has way too much eyebrow/forehead space for my tastes. The helmet really should extend down a little more; this way it makes him look like he's some dude with shaved eyebrows.

I'd say that's the biggest change in this figure from the original toy, and the anime, and kinda throws off the figure...
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:56 PM

Sky-Byte does pretty well for himself for a guy who's never had his own toy.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:57 PM

Very true.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ May 14 2010, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
99% of purchasers won't care and will go on considering him to be the Sky-Byte from RID in just a new, different body. SEE ALSO: ROTF Bludgeon, a meaningless nobody who never did anything interesting or important but that everybody loves because they see him as G1 Bludgeon.


Well, to be fair it's based heavily on the Stormbringer Bludgeon. But yeah, people were excited about a new Bludgeon even when it was a redeco of Wreckage, because Bludgeon actually needed a good update and the status of the Destructicon version as "good" was highly questionable. People like Sky-byte, but it's not like his original toy was a brickish sub-Basic with a goofy-looking rubber shell.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 14 2010, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sky-Byte does pretty well for himself for a guy who's never had his own toy.


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