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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:45 AM

News at Toonzone

I don't know anything about the comics, but I'm sure plenty of you all do. I am, however, happy to see another DC show on CN.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:50 AM

Excellent. I'm stoked to see Conner in a cartoon. icon-silverbolt.gif icon-silverbolt.gif

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:52 AM

I'm glad that this is just called Young Justice, not Young Justice League like we first heard. The designs look nice, and since it includes Conner, and what are presumably Bart and Tim, there's no way I could not watch this.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:53 AM

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:22 PM

Aqualad's black now?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:48 PM

Who is this Artemis person?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:52 PM

Is this the Superboy that showed up after the death of Superman? Isn't he a clone of Kal-El?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:01 PM

Looks like Artemis is an amalgam of Arrowette and Speedy, with possibly a little Wonder Girl in the mix ("Artemis" being Greek).

Aqualad is a surprise, but I guess they needed a token black kid since YJ is pretty whitebread (and they can't include Cyborg like the Teen Titans comics did, since he's not a teen when Connor exists).

And yay: Bart and M'gann in the same show! This promises to be hilarious.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:33 PM

New Aqualad icon-screamer.gif I would have preferred Lagoon Boy over this new character. Sigh. He better not be named Garth. Miss Martian could have filled his slot for proper representation, I think.

I hope this is Peter David's Young Justice 'fun' Kon-El instead of Geoff John's Teen Titans 'stern' Connor.

From the other shows, Firebreather? I collected the first mini. I can't believe he actually has a TV show.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

That's sweet, Tim was always my favorite Robin

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:46 PM

I'd bet Artemis is basically going to be Ravager in all but name.

Also, that people will be using "Blaqualad" all over the internet very soon. (I'm so sorry.)
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 05:01 PM

And Greg Weisman involved, marvelous.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:58 PM

any chance theshow might be done inthe same animation style of the dcau continuity?

don know about you guys but i will literally shot a brick and eat it if they somehow manage to build it into the dcau continuity

personally i could see it taking place somewhere between the end of justice league unlimited and before batman beyond

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:13 PM

QUOTE(deathgojulas @ Apr 21 2010, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
any chance theshow might be done inthe same animation style of the dcau continuity?

don know about you guys but i will literally shot a brick and eat it if they somehow manage to build it into the dcau continuity

personally i could see it taking place somewhere between the end of justice league unlimited and before batman beyond


I doubt it; but I kinda find it interesting that Tim Drake is wearing what looks like a modified version of his Gotham Knights outfit, lacking any green that Robin outfits usually have to some degree.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:25 AM

Dagnabit. Why Kid Flash and not Impulse? He's better not start out as Ultra-Solemn-Teen-Titans Bart.
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Look at his hair color. He's probably Wally.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 09:29 AM

I think the "serious"vibe is just because they're all posed for the poster. M'gann is the only one who doesn't look pissed off. She's the Holger Fath of YJ. icon-fire.gif

QUOTE(SwiftEagle @ Apr 21 2010, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd bet Artemis is basically going to be Ravager in all but name.

What makes you say that? Her costume pretty clearly evokes Green Arrow (and thus Speedy [though a more traditional look than the Red and Yellow outfit she's been wearing in the comics), and her earlier working name was a YJ-era accurate Arrowette, both of whom are more appropriate characters for a kids' TV show than Ravager.

Arrowette was pushed into superheroics by her mom, and eventually learned to become her own person. The newest Speedy is a timid, self-conscious rookie who must gradually learn to assert herself. Ravager is a victim of parental abuse who seeks bloody vengeance, and must learn to follow the group's rules. Two of them are good template characters for a childrens' TV series. One of them isn't.

(Yes, I know BtAS/JLU could've gotten away with Ravager, but it was older-audience fare that aired [in some markets at least] as a prime-time series. A show with teenaged leads is going to be a family-friendly show. Expect this to air on Saturday mornings.)

Ravager may well show up later into the show, but they wouldn't put an anger-driven avenger as a lead in the pilot.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 11:56 AM

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Is this the Superboy that showed up after the death of Superman? Isn't he a clone of Kal-El?



Correct. Kon-El/Conner Kent is clone of both Superman and Lex Luthor.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 01:06 PM

Man, I'm more interested in Generator Rex and Sym-Bionic Titan. (Giant robot show by Genndy? SIGN ME THE HUG UP!)



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