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@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.


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#1 Streetwise

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 08:26 AM

!!!!OPEN FOR COMMISSIONS!!!!
Here is a current commission project I am working on. He is made from a 1/24 scale Lancia Stratus Turbo model and a Masterpiece Skywarp frame. When he is done he will be fully articulated, have l.e.d. lit eyes, ears, headlights, taillights, and gun. He will have transforming sounds, custom weaponry like his shockblast gun and working shoulder cannons that launch his missiles. I will be doing a custom airbrushed paint job before applying his decals and he will be coming with the MP-04 Prime base with augmented sound chip to say a specific "Wheeljack" phrase. This dude is going to be awesome! I will update more as I go. Any questions or comments please feel free to ask.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 06:31 PM

Nice!

And WHOA those are some bright ears.

I wonder if sound chips are hard to come by... might be fun to put in some recorded G1 phrases and have the amplitude of the output drive the ear flashes. Or have a contact pad on his back which makes the ears light up when touched, for play-value ventriloquism, Prime-battle-mask style.

#3 Streetwise

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Geminii @ Mar 10 2010, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice!

And WHOA those are some bright ears.

I wonder if sound chips are hard to come by... might be fun to put in some recorded G1 phrases and have the amplitude of the output drive the ear flashes. Or have a contact pad on his back which makes the ears light up when touched, for play-value ventriloquism, Prime-battle-mask style.

Lol, thanks. I have a chip that reacts to vibration that is going to go into this. It will make the ears and eyes flicker similar to when he is talking. If you find one that has the capability you spoke of let me know. I would love to do that.

#4 Freddycon

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:54 PM

Damn, that is beautiful! Looks awesome to say the least. Wish I could get me one of these! Any more progress pics to show?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE(Freddycon @ Apr 28 2010, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn, that is beautiful! Looks awesome to say the least. Wish I could get me one of these! Any more progress pics to show?

Here ya go Freddy. And you can definitely have one done. Are you interested?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 11:20 PM

new pic

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#7 Freddycon

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:32 AM

Wow...Just..wow!

I so wish I could comission you to do up one of these, but I'd imagine it is waybeyond my budgetary abilities...My poor butt is broke! See? There's a huge crack running right up the middle! *OW!* Put that shockblast cannon down, it was a JOKE! Granted a lame one...

In all seriousness though I am unable to afford one right now, and thus will have to admire it from a distance... until I either get a nice-paying job or get a sugar momma, lol!

That is truly a Masterpiece, though. I can't imagine how much effort goes into making such a sweet piece of artwork as that! If I could, I'd do like they do at a wrestling venue and get a crowd cheering with me, "THIS IS AWESOME! *Clap-clap! Clap-clap-clap!*"

#8 Streetwise

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:27 PM

new pic

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:28 PM

new pic

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#10 Freddycon

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 06:26 AM

*Droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!*

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:31 AM

Dude that is so offing hot it offing hurts icon-ironhide.gif

#12 Takaratron

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE(Streetwise @ Mar 10 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you find one that has the capability you spoke of let me know. I would love to do that.



In the 90's, Tiger Electronics had a line of little pocket electronics for kids called "Yak-Bak" that let you record voice samples and flange them and other effects. Doing a quick google search for "voice recorder toy" found several things like this for around $15 (including one made by Takara-Tomy icon-waspy.gif) The toys themselves are about 2 inches by 3, generally, but if you swap the speaker, remove the buttons you dont need and remove the casing, you would just have to find a home for the circuit board and you could store batteries and the speaker anywhere you could lead wires to. I am sure there are more techinical ways to go about this, recording digitally and embedding your sounds permanantly, but this would be a quick and cheap solution.

Note: I have been planning to G1-ify an Armada Unicron, to the point of adding lights and fiber optics, and I had hoped to add several of these boxes to him, so he can at least have 2 lines & play the Unicron theme in planet mode, but I am waiting for the reissue/remould to come out in case his head is notably more G1-y. Imagine, having the right hand gimmick make him say "I have summoned you here for a purpose." instead of a blinky light icon-fire.gif

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 10:27 PM

Jeezum cheezum, that's HOT! Well done! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 03:14 PM

new pics

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#15 Freddycon

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 05:40 PM

That is too freakin' awesome for mere words!

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 05:48 PM

Very nice indeed! icon-ironhide.gif

#17 Tech-Fire

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 08:36 AM

amazing! and he lights up!
that is just...WOW



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Posted 01 June 2010 - 06:23 PM

That looks great! I really hope if we ever get a new version of Wheeljack they go all out on the racing decos like your custom does.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 08:08 PM

Any further progress with this, Streetwise?