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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg


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#1 Blindmouse

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:41 AM

As kind of a joke someone gave me a Transformer coloring book today.

I was pretty surprised to see that it's got a full Cybertronian alphabet in it.



I checked it against the few figures that I had near me that had Cybertronian symbols (Mindwipe, Chromia and Arcee) and it pretty much always worked.
Unfortunately I didn't decipher anything cool though.

Mindwipe has four symbols on his wings. Three of which I was able to read. W,Y and R.

My wife pointed out that the last symbol could be a number.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of those.

On Chromia I found, X, T, R and I.
Arcee only had two symbols, X and T.

It would be really cool if someone who knew how made a font out of these.


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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:45 AM

I should finally get off my duff and update the reference PDF on the wiki. Someone posted a clear scan of that page to the wiki awhile back, and I never got around to it. We've got most of those in the file, but not all.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:38 AM

So now someone can create a font! icon-fire.gif

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Just checked over on the wiki, and according to this some of the letters also double as numbers - I think . It seems that certain letters in the Cybertronian alphabet are assigned numeric values, as every number is also represented as a letter. So, for example, in our language, '3' and 'three' represent the same concept, while in Cybertronian, 3 and I represent the same concept.*




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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:33 AM

In most ancient alphabets, number symbols doubled as numbers. Not just Roman Numerals, but also Greek, Hebrew, etc. This is where gemetria (the practice of finding the numerical value of words, like "Nero" equalling 616 or 666) comes from. The idea of having separate number symbols didn't come to dominate until later, although it was kicking around from the start.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:41 AM

Aesthetically, cybertronian symbols look similar to the ideograms that some asian cultures use IMHO. I wonder if in some asian country fans lol and lol because "that robot has poo written on it?s wing".
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:35 AM

Given the similarity between H and O, and between I and P, poor Ironhide must have a devil of a time writing his name if his calligraphy is even a little sloppy. "PRONHIDE?"

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE(Dvandom @ Feb 24 2010, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"PRONHIDE?"

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#8 Blindmouse

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:44 AM

I should have guessed it was already on the Wiki.

I just looked at Classics Cosmos and none of his symbols are on this list.

I guess this is only a ROTF alphabet.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE(Blindmouse @ Feb 24 2010, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I should have guessed it was already on the Wiki.

I just looked at Classics Cosmos and none of his symbols are on this list.

I guess this is only a ROTF alphabet.


Yes. The language on Cosmos is on the wiki as well. Look up "Cybertronian Languages"

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#10 Rosicrucian

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:50 AM

Yeah, it's Movieverse only. We do have other Cybertronian languages on the Wiki, like Cybertronix from Beast Wars and a catchall article for the rest. We have some excellent fonts done by Jim Sorenson up too.

#11 Blindmouse

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:33 PM

Ya know... I never really looked at the Wiki before.

I guess this is a good of reason as any to start.