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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

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Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.


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#961 Autobot Bubbs

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:20 AM

I'd like to stick it out and wait to watch it on release day.... but you guys keep TEMPTING me!!!! >_<
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:30 AM

QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Mar 25 2012, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I despise Korra for being so old, well, older than when Aang started. Stupid breasts. I want a younger Avatar. But, gosh, I almost teared up at the end of the match.


What. Well, anyway, bear in mind that Aang was actually told he was the Avatar far younger than he traditionally should have been, it's just that the monks foresaw the war coming and decided (over the protests of Giatsu or however that name is spelt) to tell Aang and start his training early. As you know, that didn't work out too well for the monks. It makes sense that Korra is 16+ at that point, althogh she is meant to be exceptional, even for the Avatar. I seem to remember Roku and the previous waterbender Avatar not getting the full mastery until they were adults.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:09 PM

Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:23 PM

I think it's an interesting difference between Korra and Aang that they're showcasing.

Korra's natural aptitude for bending (with the exception of air) is far greater than Aang's. Aang had to be taught and dedicate a great deal of time and practice just to figure out how to start bending each element. Right out the gate, Korra could bend 3 of the 4, but she doesn't take to diligent training and focus like Aang did, so despite being able to bend 3 of the elements, she's not nearly as refined at it as Aang was, even though she's older.

It also explains why air is so difficult for her, because that element requires patience and training from the get-go and that sort of thing isn't her strength.

I like Korra so far, particularly because she's so different from Aang and that she's a deeply flawed Avatar (Aang felt more "Mary Sue-ish" to me than Korra, but I wouldn't qualify either of them as a Mary Sue).


And I don't get the complaint about her having breasts being a detraction. She's a female teenager, she's going to have a part of female teenager anatomy. I mean, if the artists were perving on her all the time then I can see where people might complain... but her build and wardrobe has been nothing but tasteful so far.

It seems like a really, really stupid complaint, to me.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.


No. Stop it. The overuse of this word is just ridiculous. Any character who displays the slightest bit of aptitude anymore is labeled a Mary Sue.

I'd like very much for us to get back to the proper use of the term, when fan characters with pitch-black hair, bi-colored eyes, who are the personal apprentice of Voldemort and has a name like "Raven Darkclaw-Potter" were properly called Sues.

Not the Avatar in her own media.

Edited by Matthias Phage, 26 March 2012 - 12:55 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:56 PM

I sooo want to make innuendo about Korra's developments being a sl, uh, being in your f, um, never mind. LOL!

It's just that Korra's chest just reminds me that she's a maturing young woman, not a wide-eyed innocent sweet little girl like Tenzin's daughters. The Last Airbender was a bunch of children (CHILDREN!) against the big, bad world. Anything they accomplish is a huge feat because they're so young and what they experience scars and corrupts them and forces them to mature and so we watch them evolve as the series grew on. (this is why I loved the post boot Legion of Super-Heroes)

(hmm, from their clothes Katara, Suki, Azula, Mei and Tai Li weren't too obvious they had, uh, matured. It just scandalized me when Sokka and Suki were being active, though I know Sokka's older and, of course, different age of consent in a fictitious world)

Because Korra is already a teen, she's past parts of that. Plus the world is more or less at peace at that time so she was a little more coddled than the Aang Gang. Her being advanced, having 3 of the 4, may mean less time to evolve and less story. Plus, OMG, I envision teenage love drama angst. At least Zuko had a parental angle on his angst and the kids were at war; there should be no time for romance. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just that, well, I don't want it to be that Ember Island episode with Zuko and the girls at the beach ALL the time. Nothing wrong with shipping too. I just don't want it to be the focus.

Yes, it doesn't mean that Legend of Korra will be like that. Yes, I know Aang is a thousand years old because of the iceberg. Yes, I know that we don't really want a retread of the old storyline. Yes, I know that Korra was supposedly a mini therefore she has less story line laid out. Yes, I'm giving Korra a chance. I did love the end of the match. The music drove everything home for me. And Tenzin whooping too, LOL!

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE(Fero McPigletron @ Mar 26 2012, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Korra is already a teen, she's past parts of that. Plus the world is more or less at peace at that time so she was a little more coddled than the Aang Gang. Her being advanced, having 3 of the 4, may mean less time to evolve and less story.


Two things:

1. This was originally meant to be a miniseries of about 13 episodes. So yeah, "less story" was where things kinda began.

2. This is essentially "Book 4: Air" with an Avatar that's done water, earth, and fire, already, so we see the kinda training needed for a Air Bender, as we'd already gotten some idea how training for the other three is done.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

Just saw the second episode and it couldnt be more perfect

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE(Matthias Phage @ Mar 26 2012, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.


No. Stop it. The overuse of this word is just ridiculous. Any character who displays the slightest bit of aptitude anymore is labeled a Mary Sue.

I'd like very much for us to get back to the proper use of the term, when fan characters with pitch-black hair, bi-colored eyes, who are the personal apprentice of Voldemort and has a name like "Raven Darkclaw-Potter" were properly called Sues.

Not the Avatar in her own media.

This. So much this.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Matthias Phage @ Mar 26 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.


No. Stop it. The overuse of this word is just ridiculous. Any character who displays the slightest bit of aptitude anymore is labeled a Mary Sue.

I'd like very much for us to get back to the proper use of the term, when fan characters with pitch-black hair, bi-colored eyes, who are the personal apprentice of Voldemort and has a name like "Raven Darkclaw-Potter" were properly called Sues.

Not the Avatar in her own media.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(Asquian @ Mar 26 2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Matthias Phage @ Mar 26 2012, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.


No. Stop it. The overuse of this word is just ridiculous. Any character who displays the slightest bit of aptitude anymore is labeled a Mary Sue.

I'd like very much for us to get back to the proper use of the term, when fan characters with pitch-black hair, bi-colored eyes, who are the personal apprentice of Voldemort and has a name like "Raven Darkclaw-Potter" were properly called Sues.

Not the Avatar in her own media.

This. So much this.

Yeah... if anything she's a Canon Sue... *runs away*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE(Matthias Phage @ Mar 26 2012, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ironbite @ Mar 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Korra was also bending 3 outta the 4 elements when she was a pot-bellied dyoungling as well. Exceptional isn't something I'd use to describe her myself.

Ironbite-Mary Sueish.....little bit more on the nose.


No. Stop it. The overuse of this word is just ridiculous. Any character who displays the slightest bit of aptitude anymore is labeled a Mary Sue.

I'd like very much for us to get back to the proper use of the term, when fan characters with pitch-black hair, bi-colored eyes, who are the personal apprentice of Voldemort and has a name like "Raven Darkclaw-Potter" were properly called Sues.

Not the Avatar in her own media.


Especially if that character has the brass bound nerve to be female! To some people apparently making a female character powerful (even if it's a not-unreasonable level of power within the context of the story), independant, and self confident is enough to earn them the Sue collar.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:40 PM

First two episodes currently available for free on iTunes in HD and SD.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Apr 6 2012, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First two episodes currently available for free on iTunes in HD and SD.


Watched'm last night on my new AppleTV. I don't know if they were produced for 1080p, but they looked GLORIOUS.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:10 PM

wish Itunes Canada liked me...

oh well guess I'll just have to download them illegally from youtube
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Apr 6 2012, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First two episodes currently available for free on iTunes in HD and SD.


Watched'm last night on my new AppleTV. I don't know if they were produced for 1080p, but they looked GLORIOUS.

I haven't had a chance to watch them on a big screen yet, but if the retina display on my phone is any indication, GLORIOUS is border line understatement.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:44 PM

just watched the two episodes a moment ago, and I am definitely in love with everything! HIGHLIGHT to view:
Tenzin's kids are awesome! I laughed hard at Meelo's hyperactive antics, and Tenzin begging the kids to not be troublesome in their teenage years.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:19 PM

Just saw these this morning on the (legal, televised) premiere. Awesome...so glad to have more shows in this universe. The animation was top notch, the voice acting was great (Hi Milton!), and I like Korra's character, which I was concerned I wouldn't. I am definitely in it for the long haul.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE(DrSpengler @ Mar 26 2012, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's an interesting difference between Korra and Aang that they're showcasing.

Korra's natural aptitude for bending (with the exception of air) is far greater than Aang's. Aang had to be taught and dedicate a great deal of time and practice just to figure out how to start bending each element. Right out the gate, Korra could bend 3 of the 4, but she doesn't take to diligent training and focus like Aang did, so despite being able to bend 3 of the elements, she's not nearly as refined at it as Aang was, even though she's older.



Remember though, Aang didn't start off taking to learning. He was a goof off and a know it all. He thought he could just 'do it' by and large by using Cliff Notes and wanting to, because he was the Avatar.

It took him screwing up his first foray into fire bending and harming Katara in order for him to start taking things seriously and actually try to train properly.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:24 AM

so... as to the villains we'll get to meet next week....

HIGHLIGHT to view:
they armed with Tai-li's style of chi-blocking, or they got something a bit more gamebreakingly powerful?

Also... any ideas on who might be hiding behind Amon's mask? I'm wondering if he isn't a possible descendant of Azula with a major 'I should be king of this' chip on his shoulder.

Course, that's just me and might be a tad stupid.
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