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@  Telly : (27 August 2016 - 11:21 PM)

gonna have to take a trip to dollar general in the next few days

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 09:26 PM)

Seriously, Shout Factory's Beast Wars Season 2 and 3 4 DVD set was at Dollar General for 2.95

@  Robowang : (27 August 2016 - 09:15 PM)

Whaaaaaaaaaat

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 08:29 PM)

Why no, I'm not adversed to getting Beast Wars Seasons 2 and 3 DVD set for 2.95 (At Dollar General)

@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?


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#1 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:43 PM

I don't usually pick up the Titan Transformers magazine since it is reprints of comics I already own and original comics of Skids and Mudflap. But my attention was piqued when I was told that issue 8 finished off the reprinting of All Hail Megatron.



I thought this was strange since after 8 months they'd only reprinted up to issue 5. It turns out that Titan have completely cut, mangled and CHANGED the plot of AHM to bring it to a screeching halt in just 24 pages. The magazine's editorial promises us an "epic, power-punching ending [as it] rushes head long towards its stunning conclusion".

So uh, what did they DO? Being horribly anal, I have documented the changes below!


Page 1-2 (AHM 6 p 1-2)
Kup and Jazz have a chinwag

Page 3-4 (AHM 6 p 3-4)
Starscream and Megatron have a chinwag

(We now miss out the fight between Skywarp and Bombshell)


page 5-7 (AHM 6 p10-12)
Kup and Jazz continue to chinwag

(We miss the conversation between Ironhide and Roadbuster, the sighting of the Swarm and Perceptor being scary)


Page 8-10 (AHM 6 p18-20)
Megatron and Starscream keep arguing

(We miss the decision to bomb New York and the insecticon creation flashback)


Page 11-17 (AHM 7 p5-11)
Jazz's flashback up until the splash of Megatron taking the Matrix from Prime

(We miss Sideswipe talking to Sunstreaker)


Page 18-20 (AHM 7 p15-17)
Jazz continues his flashback telling of how Prime sacrificed himself to save everyone else.
(We miss Ironhide fighting Mirage. We then miss ALL of issue 8, including Sunstreaker's death! From issue 9 we then miss the humans on Earth chatting to Spike)


Page 21 (AHM 9 p9 (panels 4&7) p15 (panel 2) p 16 (panels 4-6)
In an astonishingly bad piece of editing, Titan have MERGED some of AHMs pages, so that Ratchet enters, tells everyone Prime is about to die, Sideswipe gets angry (with changed dialogue, so that references to Sunstreaker are changed to Prime). Sideswipe now seems to be angry that Prime is definately dead, and makes it sound like Prime committed suicide due to the baffling name changes.


Terrible photo of the terrible new page (I couldn't get it without the lens flare, sorry)

page 22-24 (AHM 9 19-21)
Sideswipe's page of monologuing. Hilariously he talks about Sunstreaker's death here, so we have to assume he died off-panel somewhere.

And then the double-page splash of Optimus Prime returning. Ratchet's diagnosis 2 pages prior seemed a bit pessimistic then.

Then it says THE END!



Oh dear. Oh dear. Titan. What are you playing at? I can kinda see that they might have wanted to rush through the story, or perhaps relaunch the second half as a 'new' story, but then a little box tells us that if we want to read the rest, we need to go to Forbidden Planet and buy the trades.

I used to like Titan as a company, but this is a flabbergastingly bad piece of hack work. The WORST part is, that the Transformers mag, as one sold in supermarkets and newsagents, gets a ridiculously high distribution rate, in the tens of thousands. This is going to be how most people will read this tale!

But hey, free disk launcher!

Edited by Blueshift, 31 December 2009 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:46 PM

wow. just when we believed AHM's pacing and story-telling was as bad as it could get, someone goes out of their way to prove us wrong.

I'm glad I don't get the Titan comics.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:31 PM

Hahahahaha. "Prime's dead because he wanted OUT."

#4 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:33 PM

Now I'm wondering where on earth this will go on the wiki!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:34 PM

It's the return of Suicidal Marvel Prime! "Prime's DEAD. He's dead because he lost that video game."

Edited by Moroboshi Ataru, 31 December 2009 - 02:35 PM.


#6 Bass X0

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:43 PM

It puts Sideswipe switching off Hunter's life support machine in a new perspective now.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:04 PM

Oh man. Thank you for this, Blueshift. It is through the terrible that we can all find mirth.

I seriously Bwahaha'd at this. Good stuff.

Edited by Sprocket, 31 December 2009 - 03:08 PM.

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#8 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Dec 31 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh man. Thank you for this, Blueshift. It is through the terrible that we can all find mirth.

I seriously Bwahaha'd at this.


Thanks! Makes it worthwhile that I went out especially in the cold to procure this at a king's ransom of 2.99. That is like, 5 of your colonial dollars!

Edited by Blueshift, 31 December 2009 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:00 PM

I always thought the Titan Magazine was kind of a dumb way to drum up interest for TF's in the UK when there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Madworld @ Dec 31 2009, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought the Titan Magazine was kind of a dumb way to drum up interest for TF's in the UK when there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.


that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:17 PM

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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?

#12 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(Professor @ Dec 31 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?


While I don't want to turn this thread into one about the horrors of Hasbro UK, I'd just like to point out that while some products like ipods ARE more expensive over here, they are not THAT much more expensive, and certainly don't just 'swap the dollar signs for pounds'. Go check on amazon.

Meanwhile Hasbro's new deluxe price over here is around 22.5 dollars.It would be cheaper to import them from America, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:44 PM

i'm on a budget so i may have to import...

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 31 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

I'm not blaming them for anything, I just think it was dumb of Hasbro UK to put out a Titan Magazine in an attempt to drum up interest in TF's. How many other toylines have an entire magazine dedicated to them?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:50 PM

now, question.

Is this worse than "GET IN THE SHIP" or just about equal?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Madworld @ Dec 31 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 31 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

I'm not blaming them for anything, I just think it was dumb of Hasbro UK to put out a Titan Magazine in an attempt to drum up interest in TF's. How many other toylines have an entire magazine dedicated to them?


Titan put out the magazine. They pay Hasbro money to be able to make it.

And obviously there's enough interest since it has been going for nearly 3 years now!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Blueshift @ Dec 31 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Professor @ Dec 31 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?


While I don't want to turn this thread into one about the horrors of Hasbro UK, I'd just like to point out that while some products like ipods ARE more expensive over here, they are not THAT much more expensive, and certainly don't just 'swap the dollar signs for pounds'. Go check on amazon.

Meanwhile Hasbro's new deluxe price over here is around 22.5 dollars.It would be cheaper to import them from America, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.


WAH WAH WAH! LOOK AT ME! I'M FROM THE UK AND I THINK PRICES ARE TOO HIGH! WAAAAAAH!!

Get over yourselves, boys.


Now... about this edit. Wow. That's a pretty titanic edit. I've never heard of anything like it. Transformers has had some comic edits over the years that have changed the meaning of things. There's an Australian TPB that re-edits the first four issues of the Marvel comics to completely remove Shockwave and the Dinobots and end on Optimus Prime's victory speech -- and a similar UK edit which actually has new art.

But this... wow. That's like the ULTIMATE studio cut. I wonder if Shane McCarthy knows about this.

Also: Does this mean they TOTALLY destroyed his, "Headmasters are bad!!" thesis?

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Edited by Boltax, 31 December 2009 - 04:58 PM.


#18 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Dec 31 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(I'm an Aussie, so I have a god-given right to call Brits on their freakin' whining.)


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:10 PM

"chinwag"?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:25 PM

Yappin' the mouth but nothing important comes out.