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@  BlackMax : (03 December 2016 - 08:25 AM)

I'm still exploring all the possible mods for the PC version of Fallout New Vegas.

@  Pennpenn : (02 December 2016 - 11:03 PM)

So what, my species is perfectly happy to completely obliterate an undeveloped species to make servants, go full on ADVENT on more developed worlds, but for the middle of the road species suddenly my hands ar tied? Bah.

@  Pennpenn : (02 December 2016 - 10:58 PM)

It's annoying in Stellaris how "Pre-sentient" life forms can be Uplifted (turned into sentient and loyal races) and pre-space age civs can be messed around with and taken over, but you can't do anything about "Stone Age Primitives" so they just end up as a permanent debuff to a planet and end up squatting in valuable tiles.

@  Verity Carlo : (02 December 2016 - 10:53 PM)

To put it simply, everyone is in a race to become god.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (02 December 2016 - 10:42 PM)

I'm playing Tales of Zestiria instead.

@  Touch My Thighs : (02 December 2016 - 10:10 PM)

So basically I'm 15 hours into Final Fantasy XV and it seems like they took the edgy FF7-style game they were going to make, threw it out and made something actually fun instead.

@  BlackMax : (02 December 2016 - 09:29 PM)

...and now that I've sat home a short bit I realize I completely forgot to look for Ross, TJ MAXX or Marshalls in the area. Damn.

@  ShadowMan024 : (02 December 2016 - 09:20 PM)

I envy you.

@  BlackMax : (02 December 2016 - 09:17 PM)

Just found RiD Warriors Bisk and Ratchet, plus TR Hot Rod, while hunting. It was a good night.

@  ShadowMan024 : (02 December 2016 - 08:28 PM)

"You hugin' people..."

@  Strafe : (02 December 2016 - 07:36 PM)

I liked that one, too. I'm not a fan of the guy at all, but "A Few Good Men" is still one of my all-time favorite movies. He's fantastic as Lt. Daniel Kaffee.

@  Kalidor : (02 December 2016 - 06:24 PM)

Tom Cruise sucks but I really did enjoy Edge of Tomorrow

@  Benbot : (02 December 2016 - 03:57 PM)

What? They made a new Mummy movie and cast Tom Cruise? I love Cruise, but isn't he kind of expensive? Kind of stupid to rely on his star power to boost a new franchise instead of...like...good writing? I hope it had both, but I'm not holding my breath.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (01 December 2016 - 11:36 PM)

Now if only I could get one of my GoG games to work right (well series of games) :(

@  Kalidor : (01 December 2016 - 11:24 PM)

Thanks, I picked it up. Worth it for the soundtrack alone

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (01 December 2016 - 10:01 PM)

GoG is awsome.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2016 - 08:07 PM)

woot woot, thank you kindly!

@  Dekafox : (01 December 2016 - 07:42 PM)

Head's up, GOG has Neverwinter Nights up for free for about another 30 hours or so

@  Verity Carlo : (01 December 2016 - 07:30 PM)

the men who murdered my imaginary friends

@  Locoman : (01 December 2016 - 05:30 PM)

I'm coming, Baby Legs! I'm.... Regular... Legs!

@  Benbot : (01 December 2016 - 04:05 PM)

What are you worried about, come get fake doors!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 December 2016 - 02:07 PM)

I just found out that Blue from Blue's Clues is a girl. Whoa.

@  Bass X0 : (01 December 2016 - 01:14 PM)

Holy Magikrap!

@  Pennpenn : (01 December 2016 - 08:45 AM)

Also, TR Triggerhappy is a good mold.

@  Pennpenn : (01 December 2016 - 07:34 AM)

I should have said "not staying together", but anyway.

@  unluckiness : (01 December 2016 - 06:50 AM)

My Astrotrain had that but some floor polish on the tabs helped.

@  Pennpenn : (01 December 2016 - 06:48 AM)

On the subject of recalcitrant TR voyagers, does anyone else have an issue with Sentinel Prime's legs staying together in space-brick mode?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (01 December 2016 - 03:40 AM)

Holy crap or holy carp? ;)

@  BlackMax : (30 November 2016 - 08:41 PM)

...holy crap it works!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2016 - 07:14 PM)

Hold the button (orange spot) on his chest and push them down till they click.

@  BlackMax : (30 November 2016 - 06:05 PM)

The horns can never be kept down! \m/. >_< .\m/

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2016 - 04:19 PM)

I was about to say.. I have no problem getting him to stay together in any mode. The horns was the worst thing for me. But I got that fixed.

@  unitremover : (30 November 2016 - 12:26 PM)

...and I just figured that out too

@  unitremover : (30 November 2016 - 12:24 PM)

Oh, hey, I figured it out. Now if I can just find a way to get his upper and lower body to stay pegged together in robot mode I'll be in business.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 November 2016 - 12:12 PM)

Cold showers.

@  unitremover : (30 November 2016 - 12:11 PM)

Oh, what's the trick to getting his horns to stay down?

@  unluckiness : (30 November 2016 - 08:26 AM)

Alolan baristas say the darndest things

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2016 - 08:26 AM)

I like Alpha trion. Just gotta see if his horns will stay down now that I learned the trick.

@  Robowang : (30 November 2016 - 07:55 AM)

Alpha Trion is awesome. Fun transformation, beefy robot mode, sweet sword, amazing headsculpt, and great colors.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 November 2016 - 05:48 AM)

Why? Alpha Trion is pretty cool, even with some flaws. He reminds me of BW2 designs.

@  unitremover : (29 November 2016 - 11:34 PM)

I should've listened to what everybody else said about Alpha Trion and not gotten lured in by the sweet siren call of a new toy evoking Vector Prime

@  Msol : (29 November 2016 - 10:12 PM)

Hot damn Astrotrain is way better than I was expecting.

@  BlackMax : (29 November 2016 - 06:32 PM)

I would've guessed that unaired theme for Beast Machines.

@  Gizmoboy : (29 November 2016 - 04:11 PM)

yes, Lightbright is correct on that one

@  Lightbright : (29 November 2016 - 01:47 PM)

Boom Boom Pow by the Black Eyed Peas?

@  Bass X0 : (29 November 2016 - 01:36 PM)

Name the song by the lyrics - "I'm a beast when you turn me on, into the future Cybertron"

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2016 - 05:47 AM)

Ultra Matryoska.

@  BlackMax : (29 November 2016 - 04:55 AM)

That'd be CW Ultra Magnus, I would think.

@  Nutjob R/T : (29 November 2016 - 01:22 AM)

Hm. Titans Return Rowboat Girlyman?

@  BlackMax : (28 November 2016 - 09:09 PM)

TR Alpha Trion looks like a Space Marine Primarch. Specifically, I'm thinking Fulgrim.


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Transformers: The Facts?


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#1 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 11:54 PM

I was browsing a little archive of Marvel UK Transformers comics, from issue #200, but I found a little booklet called Transformers: The Facts. It's all about who is stronggest, fastest, etc. of the Transformers.


This page in particular intersted me, as I love Transformers scale issues.



Metroplex is officially 698 feet tall, and it seems to imply that Devastator is 100 feet tall.

How come I've never heard of this booklet before? I didn't see a thing about all the "facts" that it presents. Anyone want to see more pages? It has more fun facts scattered in it's pages, like what are Rack'n'Ruin's alt modes, who is the strongest transformer for his size, and bios and pictures of the Marvel Transformers artists.

Edited by mignash, 16 October 2009 - 06:42 AM.


#2 Shattered

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 12:04 AM

Great find. More scans, please.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 12:10 AM

Okay, it's only 12 pages. Here is the whole thing. Might be worth mentioning in trivia sections of the Wiki or something.

























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Posted 16 October 2009 - 12:10 AM

More please, indeed. I've never heard of this.
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 12:27 AM

I remember that from the UK comics, I got most of mine secondhand in the late 90's with the free gifts still attached. A lot of the gifts were cheesy trinkets like a little plastic magnifying glass, though.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 01:48 AM

It's kind of depressing reading that pre-multiversal singularity Primus/Unicron thing and seeing that that it made simple, perfect sense.

Well, as much sense as you can make of primal gods that leave their bodies and end up stuck inside planetoids... but you get what I mean. The MS doesn't really jibe with it at all.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 02:43 AM

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Well, as much sense as you can make of primal gods that leave their bodies and end up stuck inside planetoids... but you get what I mean. The MS doesn't really jibe with it at all.


Sure it does.

Primus and Unicron fought and shattered each other into neigh infinite pieces. A lot of said pieces apparently ended up inside planetoids that they reshaped and/or populated.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 03:11 AM

I disagree with a lot of this.

So, apparently grimlock is the strongest transformer now, stronger than metroplex or galvatron? And he is intelligent, but chooses to act dumb to seem stronger?

... I don't like G1. Its so inconsistent.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE(landbasered @ Oct 16 2009, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree with a lot of this.

So, apparently grimlock is the strongest transformer now, stronger than metroplex or galvatron? And he is intelligent, but chooses to act dumb to seem stronger?

... I don't like G1. Its so inconsistent.


Did you read all of it? It says he's the strongest one of his size class, but giants like Menasor are stronger.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 05:15 AM

Indeed. Reading IS fundamental...especially when you don't skip chunks *lol*

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 


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Posted 16 October 2009 - 05:22 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 16 2009, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Well, as much sense as you can make of primal gods that leave their bodies and end up stuck inside planetoids... but you get what I mean. The MS doesn't really jibe with it at all.


Sure it does.

Primus and Unicron fought and shattered each other into neigh infinite pieces. A lot of said pieces apparently ended up inside planetoids that they reshaped and/or populated.



That's not even close to how Unicron works in the current multiverse structure.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 06:39 AM

I know it's just my own personal fiction, but when I did my Transformers tabletop RPG the STRENGTH is relative to size - two guys with the same number the bigger one is stronger. So I'm kinda glad to see this makes sense. Grimlock is probably the strongest for his size.

Edited by mignash, 16 October 2009 - 06:46 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2009 - 07:12 AM

So what about Mini-Bot Brawn then. Physically weaker than Perceptor just because he's smaller?

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:05 AM

No. In the game (which I admit, I wrote, nothing official, but based on the Champions RPG rules) There is actually a formula in the RPG for strength based on STR stat from the tech spec, and I calculate it based on them being human height, then I apply the "growth" power bonus from the Champions RPG rules (which increase lifting ability 8 times for every doubling of height).

I think based Brawn is standing 16 feet tall, and Perceptor is 18 feet (again, just guessing). With their initial STR stats and the size bonus Brawn can lift 20 tons (because he has a STR 9), Perceptor 15 tons (he has a STR of 7). If they had been the same height Brawn would be able to lift much more than that, but Perceptor got more than Brawn for the height bonus. I think in the RPG Brawn ends up being the second strongest of the original '84 Autobots, behind Prime. Big guys like Jetfire, some Dinobots and Omega Supreme and such outclassed him in the '85 line. Jetfire was a case where his sheer SIZE demanded strength, despite having a STR of only 6. If Brawn had been the same size as Jetfire, Brawn would be stronger.

Edited by mignash, 16 October 2009 - 08:12 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:30 AM

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That's not even close to how Unicron works in the current multiverse structure.


How so? icon-depth.gif

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 16 2009, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Well, as much sense as you can make of primal gods that leave their bodies and end up stuck inside planetoids... but you get what I mean. The MS doesn't really jibe with it at all.


Sure it does.

Primus and Unicron fought and shattered each other into neigh infinite pieces. A lot of said pieces apparently ended up inside planetoids that they reshaped and/or populated.

That... is apparently some weird third option you've come up with. It doesn't match the MS origin OR the one detailed above.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 16 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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That's not even close to how Unicron works in the current multiverse structure.


How so? icon-depth.gif


Unicron was never "shattered into neigh infinite pieces." There's only one of him.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:39 AM

QUOTE(Kil @ Oct 16 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 16 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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That's not even close to how Unicron works in the current multiverse structure.


How so? icon-depth.gif


Unicron was never "shattered into neigh infinite pieces." There's only one of him.


Technically 2, if one is the big robot Primacron built, and the other a Chaos god inhabiting a metal planet. ;-)

Maybe Primacron built his giant robot that turns into a planet eating planet to look like the REAL Chaos God Unicron? It even started to think it WAS the real Unicron.

Edited by mignash, 16 October 2009 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2009 - 09:16 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Oct 16 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kil @ Oct 16 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 16 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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That's not even close to how Unicron works in the current multiverse structure.


How so? icon-depth.gif


Unicron was never "shattered into neigh infinite pieces." There's only one of him.


Technically 2, if one is the big robot Primacron built, and the other a Chaos god inhabiting a metal planet. ;-)

Maybe Primacron built his giant robot that turns into a planet eating planet to look like the REAL Chaos God Unicron? It even started to think it WAS the real Unicron.


Or maybe Unicron shaped his asteroid prison into a rough humanoid/planetoid shape of living spacerock (think Rocklords) and Primacron refined him into his current giant robot god form giving him improved mobility, senses, speed, etc. in exchange for arcane knowledge in some sort of Faustian deal.

Also: I love this thing. Sig'd.


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Posted 16 October 2009 - 10:20 AM

Back to Metroplex, we recently uncovered a Comics Bom Bom issue that said Metroplex is 800 meters tall. This UK comic says a mere 698 feet, which is 212.8 metters. So Metroplex is nearly 4 times as tall in the Japanese continuity than in the UK continuity?

It's also neat to note that the tech specs for Broadside say he's 1200 feet long in aircraft carrier mode, so in the UK height of Metroplex with these numbers, Broadside is longer bigger than Metroplex is tall? Interesting.

PS - I also giggle at their depiction of Blurr as the fastest Transformer. Maybe they mean reaction time or something, but they made a big deal that he can go in vehicle mode faster than the speed of sound! Yes, I know that's really fast FOR A CAR. Anyone in the UK team read the tech specs of the various jets who have max speed as multiples of the speed of sound?

Edited by mignash, 16 October 2009 - 10:26 AM.