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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 *Deathblade

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 05:18 PM

I dont see any topics on this. This game is pure hard, and 100% awesome! The online help system, and being able to see how others died is cool. Did anyone else pick this up?

#2 Asquian

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 05:52 PM

It's on my list for spring when I'll likely pick up a PS3. This, the Uncharted games, and a couple of others mean the system is finally hitting the threshold that, for me, warrants purchase.

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 06:25 PM

I've got it but, I haven't had much of a chance to play it so far.

#4 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 09:09 PM

I'm stuck on the first level. x.x


#5 *Deathblade

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:05 PM

OK, I'll expand on the gameplay.

Its alot like a rogue-like and Baldurs gate mixed together

You are meant to die, ALOT. Its never really feels unfair, though. Most times when you die, its because you rushed into a situation unprepared. Some enemies can kill you in one or two hits, but you learn to use your souls (currency) to level up your attributes, and your equipment.

Eventually you get further and further, and learn to observe the enemy attack strategies. When you die, you leave a bloodstain. Other people can touch the bloodstain and see the last few seconds of your demise while still playing in real-time. Your game is essentially offline, but you can see other players playing their game. They show up as white siluoettes in your game, you can see them briefly for a few seconds.

The deaths and brief glimpses can often times clue you in to ambushes and strong enemies, as strong enemies often times have numerous bloodstains in the area.

Other players can join your game for good or ill, but they have to have the items to do it. Its not something they can actively abuse, unless they farm the items.

You can also leave hints at any point, see a hidden treasure, leave a hint, strong enemy ahead, leave a hint...if others find your hint useful, they can recommend it, and you get a small real-time life restoration. You can gauge how useful a hint is by looking at how many times its been recommended. You can also simply ask for help, and people can recommend you, and get a life boost that way.

This game is like nothing I have played!

#6 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 07:22 PM

I'm still trying to get past the first level. It's soo fricken hard.


In a good way.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 03:52 PM

It's on my list of things to get...when I finally actually have money I can spend. I haven't heard much about it. But what I have heard seems to point to "awesome."
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#8 Asquian

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE(Caldwin @ Nov 1 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's on my list of things to get...when I finally actually have money I can spend. I haven't heard much about it. But what I have heard seems to point to "awesome."

what I've read is a combination of original, awesome, and soul crushingly difficult.

I do look forward to playing it...this spring...


#9 Prime 2.0

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 04:37 PM

waiting for a price drop, or another BOGO sale




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#10 Xero Prime

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:07 AM

I picked this up a week or so ago. It;s really cool. THe grinding is so enjoyable and the risk reward system is nice. I haven't had a chance to play for an extended period of time but I am looking forward to the chance. I'm seeing it as one hell of a time sink...

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#11 awa64

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:28 AM

Psst.

It's "Demon's Souls."

#12 Xero Prime

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:45 PM

Over half way through Ng +. Working on world tendencies. +9 purple flame shield plus any spear is mean mean mean. Throw the Northern regalia into the mix with a white or black character tendency and the damage gets pretty harsh. I realize that there are maybe three of us here playing/played this one, but wow is it a neat game.


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#13 Noprobsrobs

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE(Xero Prime @ Jan 30 2010, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Over half way through Ng +. Working on world tendencies. +9 purple flame shield plus any spear is mean mean mean. Throw the Northern regalia into the mix with a white or black character tendency and the damage gets pretty harsh. I realize that there are maybe three of us here playing/played this one, but wow is it a neat game.


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Your half way through! I couldn't even beat the first stage! I got fed up with it and sold it.

#14 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE(Gunrage @ Jan 31 2010, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Xero Prime @ Jan 30 2010, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Over half way through Ng +. Working on world tendencies. +9 purple flame shield plus any spear is mean mean mean. Throw the Northern regalia into the mix with a white or black character tendency and the damage gets pretty harsh. I realize that there are maybe three of us here playing/played this one, but wow is it a neat game.


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Your half way through! I couldn't even beat the first stage! I got fed up with it and sold it.



Half way through NG+ that means he already beat the game once.

#15 Xero Prime

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:42 PM

I think the first level the first time it the hardest thing in the game...well 5-2 the first time is the hardest, but at least you know what to expect...but my point is, you get the game, everyone is talking about how hard it is ect ect. Add difficult gameplay to normal new game confusion and it can be painful.

As you come to accept the failure of dying and realize how easy it really is to recover from it the game becomes somewhat easy. Most the levels have built in check points in the form of short cuts that you activate by reaching a reasonable distance into the level...but yeah it's not for everyone.

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