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@  NightViper : (30 September 2016 - 08:38 PM)

*Snaps towel*

@  ShadowMan024 : (30 September 2016 - 06:10 PM)

FOOL! *points cane at NightViper*

@  NightViper : (30 September 2016 - 06:06 PM)

It's not "Fools of towel play"? Damn.

@  RichardT1977 : (30 September 2016 - 05:20 PM)

Huh, I always thought it was "tools of power play".

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:30 PM)

http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/133313-instruments-of-destruction-30th-anniversary-edition-youtube-video-and-legal-purchase-links-inside/

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 September 2016 - 03:18 PM)

tools of foul play

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:04 PM)

instruments of destruction

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:01 PM)

Maybe like how Megaempress and her 4 Guards showed up so many male Cybertrons and Destrons. *snerk*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

Maybe as a female EDC officer who actually kicks his ass for a change.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

And Carly too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

I would be thrilled to see him in the IDW continuity in the near future.

@  zephyrX9 : (29 September 2016 - 02:56 PM)

when the hell is chip chase gonna come back?

@  Robowang : (29 September 2016 - 11:14 AM)

Like a letter to my mom from prison inmates!

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.


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#1 (Deactivated) Ataru

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 05:21 PM

Assuming that Hasbro doesn't just do "The Movie, but a cartoon" (I love the Movie toys, but I get bored even with good things if they continue for too long; variety is best!), what sort of mainline would you like to see follow up on the Movie? Keep in mind that Hasbro has said Universe will continue to be a sub-line, if I recall correctly, and won't be the next mainline.

One thing I've wanted to see for awhile is a line of beast/vehicle/robot triple changers, using semi-futuristic, i.e. Animated-level-of-futuristic vehicle modes. For instance, a Prime who turns from a firetruck to a dragon to a robot, or a Megatron who turns from a tank to robot to gorilla. icon-fire.gif As long as they kept the beast modes rather G1-style, I don't think it would be too unsightly, say, to have a truck turn into a robot tiger, or something.

Ideas!

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:20 PM

bring back animated+classics plz. ):

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

Since they've said Classics/Universe will be back [as its usual side line], gimme anything for the main line. Preferably something on the same level of quality writing as Animated.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 29 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:34 PM

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.

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The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:36 PM

You know, I'd kind of love to see TransTech get a second attempt, but using the Fan Club's Axiom Nexus-verse as a setting.

I'd be more willing to say that I'd want to see Shattered Glass, but I think the prose storyline is really going to fully cover that continuity, so TransTech it is.

Seriously, though, those two universes are just so delightfully unique that I kind of hate seeing them languishing in the relative obscurity of the Fan Club.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 30 2009, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.


Will you still be posting? Honestly, the distinctions you're making in your opinion there are so arbitrary, I'm not even sure where to begin. But it's okay that Animated was by far the most homage heavy and fanwanky series ever, as long as it was drawn in a zany way, right?

As long as they're continuing Classics style stuff in an adequate way on the side, I'm pretty open minded as long as the writing is good in the show. I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:40 PM

I prefer something completely fresh from where we've been and definitely something completely unrelated to the movie. No doubt the mindless machines (ironic) will soon be pumping out a TF3 and possibly more so there will be plenty of opportunity for more ugly robots in the future. Let's take a break from it for a year or more.

My dream would be TransTech, but seeing as that is incredibly unlikely, I wouldn't mind a return to organic Beasts. I also would love a line that has an over the top anime look. I just hope it is something original and not simply another alt universe with sad attempts at recreating/reimagining classic characters and basic story plot. Either continue the original continuity or move in a completely new direction, please.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Sep 29 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.


A line of mythological creatures would be very cool. Beast Wars III anyone?

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Something akin to Classics & Universe 2.0.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Considering that the past two main lines have been the movies and Animated, I think that there's more than enough room for Classics-aesthetic figures as a sub-line. As for the main line, I don't have any preferences, oddly enough. The movie figures are still my favorite aesthetic, but at this point, they'll have produced almost all of my favorite characters in either the first or second movie line.

I'd like to see some Master-style figures done with modern technology, though.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 29 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.


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Seems to me like the last 15 years or so has been about that. Beast Wars/Machines, RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron and the Movie have all had tons of new, modern ideas. There have been lots of homages, yes, but there's also been just as many, if not more totally new ideas, characters and such. How much more originality do you need to drown yourself in before you realize you already have more than enough of it? Maybe you're just one of those spoiled babies that want MORE MORE MORE, no matter what. At least the Classics lovers can be satisfied to a certain point since G1 ended over 20 years ago, there's only so many characters to remake, as opposed to more and more characterless "original" characters that can be made up easily for newer lines and shows.

Also, complaining about too much classic characters and figures, but wildly praising Animated, which like Jeremy said, is more fanwanky than anything else is just *scrubbed*.

Edited by C16, 29 September 2009 - 09:55 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:51 PM

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It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.


Define "Classics themed" then.

Animated was VERY Classic themed for example. As was Classics even though they're so very different from each other.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Sep 29 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Define "Classics themed" then.


Anything without big chins, wide chests or stick thighs.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:59 PM

Glyph, Tap-Out, Radalert, Sunstorm, Classics Wasp, Slaughterhouse...

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:07 PM

I really don't think we're gonna be seeing any Classics 3.0 or anything. I think we're going to get Movie-styled versions of stuff from now on. At least in between cartoon series, which may or may not be movie-esque in their own ways.

I hope you folks like ROTF Dirge and Bludgeon and Brakedown, 'cuz I think you'll be seeing a lot of stuff like that.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

It really would be refreshing to have a show about entirely new characters with cameo or references to the ones we know.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

Animated also took those classic concepts and made them anew in ways that were fresh and not tired and boring.

But even then, there's a comic series? What do we get? G1. Ideas for a toy repaint? G1. You guys act like G1 has been getting the short end of the stick when it's been getting all the lucre even when it's not the "main" toyline.

Yes, Animated used a lot of G1 elements, but it also turned them on its ear. The Seekers are clones, not Starscream's vaguely characterized goon squad. Blackarachnia takes Elita-1 and her BW incarnation and makes her completely different. Shockwave is a new spin on his G1 cartoon characterization. Soundwave plays a guitar and tries to take over for the machines. Ratchet - just everything about Ratchet. Blitzwing! Optimus is a low rung dude.

And even then, we get Dirt Boss, Bulkhead, Sentinel Prime, Lugnut! Transformers has always excelled when it balances the old and the new in a way that comes off as a nice, breath of fresh air. If we focus too much on Classics, we'll get something like G.I. Joe that repeats repeats repeats and doesn't go anywhere and just becomes stale.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:11 PM

I would love some beasts. Especially mythological creatures and/or fuzors.