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@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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#1 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:52 PM

Seriously.. I was searching through TV tropes and didn't find anything on burning courage!


Who dropped the ball?

#2 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:54 PM

I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 10:10 PM

http://tvtropes.org/...Main/HotBlooded

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE(∀Hime∀ @ Aug 15 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

You are dead to me.

#5 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:00 AM

Better watch out... Esser-Z is about to go into Tranquil Fury!

#6 Adam G

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:08 AM

hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 01:41 AM

I don't think the point of TVTropes is to call something bad. A common theme doesn't have to be hackneyed or clich?, but I think it's fun to notice them anyway.
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:11 AM

They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

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The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
doesn't make it bad.


Which is pretty much the same opinion as TVTropes. They just list them.
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You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that.

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#10 Cabal

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Aug 16 2009, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

They also constantly mention that tropes aren't bad.

Writing something without using any of the tropes on TV Tropes would be like cooking without ingredients.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:31 AM

Personally, I think the idea of "TV tropes" cheapens the whole creative field by trying to categorize every little thing. Even if it does seem to be taken to extreme levels of self-parody.

#12 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:35 AM

The problem is when you get these people who come up to you and:

"Hey, that looks interesting."
"Yeah, it's my favourite show!"
"What's it about?"
"Oh, this, and that, and this!"
"Oh, sounds like a classic *TROPE* and *TROPE* with some *TROPE*"


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#13 Detour

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:41 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

http://tvtropes.org/.../TropesAreTools

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#14 lastmaximal

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:24 AM

Of course, some TropeRs are also tools. But that's true of anyone. icon-fire.gif


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#15 HellCat

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:47 AM

http://blog.toonzone...nce--tv-tropes/

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:49 AM

I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.

Edited by The Ambassador, 16 August 2009 - 04:51 AM.

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Mar 13 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that.

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#17 HellCat

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:55 AM

QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

#18 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Aug 16 2009, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

They got that covered too.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:50 AM

I love TV Tropes. They basically take the analysis that all (script)writers worth their pay should be doing anyway and put it in clear easy-to-read wiki format. It's like Cliff Notes for the process of writing.

Plus it's fun going through their "Crowning Moment of" and "Nightmare Fuel" pages as a way to remember those, er, memorable scenes in various stories and discover new stories.

Plus their "Wild Mass Guessing" pages are shrines of entertaining self-aware fanwank.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:05 AM

Crowning Music is a great way to share good songs by name (and youtube links). I'm a troper, and all I can say is Overdosing On TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.
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