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@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 05:22 PM)

didn't know the reference before searching, but the Lizard Queen & fermentarium thing are from Simpsons. https://en.m.wikiped.../Selma's_Choice

@  Smokey : (01 May 2016 - 04:53 PM)

What the hug's a fermentarium?

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 04:34 PM)

'Dawn of the Predacus' not your cup of tea? Try TRANSFORMERS: UNITY for your BotCon 2016 comic.

@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 02:14 PM)

...... *MED's hand appears in the fermentarium, getting closer to TMM, along with the Jaws theme*

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 May 2016 - 01:19 PM)

I wasn't going to go in naked, but it rotted off all my clothes. And then I was already in anyway, so......

@  Paladin : (01 May 2016 - 12:32 PM)

for the last time, stop swimming naked in the fermentarium.

@  MEDdMI : (01 May 2016 - 09:17 AM)

I bring you fresh crickets and worms, my Queen. Your basking lamp is ready for you afterwards.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (01 May 2016 - 09:13 AM)

I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN!!!!!

@  Locoman : (01 May 2016 - 08:59 AM)

I still want a cheetor figure that actually looks like the version we got on the tv show.

@  zephyrX9 : (01 May 2016 - 01:15 AM)

my salt in not getting victorion has turned into salt waiting for TR rewind to go up for preorder. ho-hum

@  Verno : (01 May 2016 - 01:05 AM)

Given how TM Megs suffers from GPS, I'm sure many people would jump at a reissue.

@  Pennpenn : (01 May 2016 - 12:32 AM)

Out of all the hypothetical Beast Wars things, the one I'd like is a leader class Transmetal Megatron

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 11:18 PM)

They'd make a superb duo. If TT drew the line under BW MPs after those two, I'd be perfectly content.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:15 PM)

I personally hope we get an MP BW Megs, especially if he has a rubber ducky he can hold, yeeess.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Bring on October and MP Primal so the anniversary celebrations can begin.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:06 PM)

oh hey lok its tecs birthday

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 11:03 PM)

It certainly has, man. If it wasn't for BW I probably wouldn't be here.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 10:15 PM)

Yeah, I threw a link in the Beast Wars Birthday thread. I'm keen to hear as many thoughts on it as possible. The last month has proven just how dear to the hearts of fans BW is.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 10:04 PM)

I looked at it a few days ago, actually, I saw you post it somewhere here on the forums.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 09:43 PM)

No, they're certainly after their own ends. Cheers for taking a look at it, Smokey. I appreciate it.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 09:36 PM)

Well, at least you twisted things around so the Tripredacus council aren't minions of Unicron.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 09:30 PM)

With Primus and Unicron, it was my aim for it to double as a celebration of the 30th anniversary of TF:TM.

@  Smokey : (30 April 2016 - 09:27 PM)

It's... Better than Dawn of the Predacus, at least. I could do without the whole Primus v. Unicron thing, that's been done to death.

@  Telly : (30 April 2016 - 09:25 PM)

i went off when i saw unicron

@  Patchouli Kn... : (30 April 2016 - 09:04 PM)

You shall not pass.

@  Touch My Thighs : (30 April 2016 - 09:01 PM)

Pass.

@  Verno : (30 April 2016 - 08:09 PM)

Read my Beast Wars 20th Anniversary comic book pitch to IDW -- TRANSFORMERS: DEICIDE

@  Telly : (30 April 2016 - 08:00 PM)

like paladin says, bbts and the like probly have them (or will get them soon) but are waiting for the hasbro release date before putting up pages

@  Paladin : (30 April 2016 - 05:10 PM)

something about street dates I think...

@  Pennpenn : (30 April 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Any particular reason it's not available in some of the ones I see more often like BBTS and TFSource and so on?

@  unluckiness : (30 April 2016 - 09:55 AM)

Might want to wash your hands after handling the toys if you order from the latter.

@  Paladin : (30 April 2016 - 05:48 AM)

Victorion is also listed in-stock here http://www.ajstoyche...tset_p_102.html and here http://www.poopoopan...Set_p_4832.html

@  tffan01 : (30 April 2016 - 05:42 AM)

@summer, I was wondering why it looks like an ordinary TF group instead of being about TFWiki.

@  zephyrX9 : (30 April 2016 - 12:18 AM)

ok so either ages three and up sold out of victorion or their system is confusing so i guess im getting computron instead. rip my dream of ladybots everywhere

@  Summer : (29 April 2016 - 02:07 PM)

The TFWiki Facebook group has long since been abandoned by the actual TFWiki moderators, and there's little to no affiliation with the actual site.

@  Paladin : (29 April 2016 - 07:58 AM)

Willis needs to make rent again?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 06:46 AM)

Oh, are the Titans Return leaks up on there, too?

@  NightViper : (29 April 2016 - 06:41 AM)

Holy jive! So much porn spam in the TFWiki Facebook group!

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 06:34 AM)

SAVE THE BUNNIES!!!!

@  MEDdMI : (29 April 2016 - 05:59 AM)

I know I said I like steely buns, but I didn't literally mean buns made out of steel!

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 05:20 AM)

Alligators are really scary, because they can eat you. But you know what's even scarier than alligators? Flying alligators. With laser vision. Scariest environment imaginable.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 02:24 AM)

Rook has a very firm butt. ;)

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 02:20 AM)

But his butt is down there, and that's what I want to look at.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 April 2016 - 02:19 AM)

Rook's eyes are up here, Foffy.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 02:14 AM)

Obviously. Rook couldn't very well win the swimsuit competition while he was stuck being a leg, now could he?

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 April 2016 - 02:12 AM)

....of joy, because he's no longer stuck holding up a heavy combiner and can now go do his own thing?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (29 April 2016 - 02:09 AM)

You hear that? That's the sound of Rook crying bitter, bitter tears.

@  Telly : (29 April 2016 - 12:58 AM)

my deluxe groove has shipped! soon i will have defensor the way he is supposed to be!!

@  Dracula : (28 April 2016 - 09:09 AM)

All I can say is their preorder and invoice system seems to work fine.

@  Dracula : (28 April 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Oddly I just placed an order with them this week. But I haven't received the item (Victorion) yet, so I can't really give you a review


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#1 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:52 PM

Seriously.. I was searching through TV tropes and didn't find anything on burning courage!


Who dropped the ball?

#2 Touch My Thighs

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:54 PM

I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

Like if you went to hell, and it was full of blood, and that blood was on fire, and it was raining blood, then maybe that would be enough blood! Eh… but probably not.


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Posted 15 August 2009 - 10:10 PM

http://tvtropes.org/...Main/HotBlooded

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE(∀Hime∀ @ Aug 15 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

You are dead to me.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:00 AM

Better watch out... Esser-Z is about to go into Tranquil Fury!

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:08 AM

hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 01:41 AM

I don't think the point of TVTropes is to call something bad. A common theme doesn't have to be hackneyed or clich?, but I think it's fun to notice them anyway.
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:11 AM

They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
doesn't make it bad.


Which is pretty much the same opinion as TVTropes. They just list them.
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Aug 16 2009, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

They also constantly mention that tropes aren't bad.

Writing something without using any of the tropes on TV Tropes would be like cooking without ingredients.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:31 AM

Personally, I think the idea of "TV tropes" cheapens the whole creative field by trying to categorize every little thing. Even if it does seem to be taken to extreme levels of self-parody.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:35 AM

The problem is when you get these people who come up to you and:

"Hey, that looks interesting."
"Yeah, it's my favourite show!"
"What's it about?"
"Oh, this, and that, and this!"
"Oh, sounds like a classic *TROPE* and *TROPE* with some *TROPE*"


Like if you went to hell, and it was full of blood, and that blood was on fire, and it was raining blood, then maybe that would be enough blood! Eh… but probably not.


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:41 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

http://tvtropes.org/.../TropesAreTools

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I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:24 AM

Of course, some TropeRs are also tools. But that's true of anyone. icon-fire.gif


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:47 AM

http://blog.toonzone...nce--tv-tropes/

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:49 AM

I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.

Edited by The Ambassador, 16 August 2009 - 04:51 AM.

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Mar 13 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:55 AM

QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

#18 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Aug 16 2009, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

They got that covered too.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:50 AM

I love TV Tropes. They basically take the analysis that all (script)writers worth their pay should be doing anyway and put it in clear easy-to-read wiki format. It's like Cliff Notes for the process of writing.

Plus it's fun going through their "Crowning Moment of" and "Nightmare Fuel" pages as a way to remember those, er, memorable scenes in various stories and discover new stories.

Plus their "Wild Mass Guessing" pages are shrines of entertaining self-aware fanwank.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:05 AM

Crowning Music is a great way to share good songs by name (and youtube links). I'm a troper, and all I can say is Overdosing On TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.
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