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#1 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:52 PM

Seriously.. I was searching through TV tropes and didn't find anything on burning courage!


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#2 Hecate

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:54 PM

I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 10:10 PM

http://tvtropes.org/...Main/HotBlooded

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE(∀Hime∀ @ Aug 15 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I steer clear of TVTropes.

I feel that linking to someone else's writing on a subject instead of forming your own opinion is kinda detrimental to being a critic. Sure, there are tones of stereotypes and stuff, but overcategorization is the death of fun stories.

So I ignore TVTrope links.

You are dead to me.

#5 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:00 AM

Better watch out... Esser-Z is about to go into Tranquil Fury!

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 12:08 AM

hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 01:41 AM

I don't think the point of TVTropes is to call something bad. A common theme doesn't have to be hackneyed or clich?, but I think it's fun to notice them anyway.
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#8 Razorsaw

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:11 AM

They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
doesn't make it bad.


Which is pretty much the same opinion as TVTropes. They just list them.
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Aug 16 2009, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They SAY ON THEIR SITE that tropes aren't cliches.

They also constantly mention that tropes aren't bad.

Writing something without using any of the tropes on TV Tropes would be like cooking without ingredients.

#11 Bocc Kob

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:31 AM

Personally, I think the idea of "TV tropes" cheapens the whole creative field by trying to categorize every little thing. Even if it does seem to be taken to extreme levels of self-parody.

#12 Hecate

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:35 AM

The problem is when you get these people who come up to you and:

"Hey, that looks interesting."
"Yeah, it's my favourite show!"
"What's it about?"
"Oh, this, and that, and this!"
"Oh, sounds like a classic *TROPE* and *TROPE* with some *TROPE*"


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:41 AM

QUOTE(aDam @ Aug 16 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hug TV Tropes. Just overanalyzing stuff for no reason. Everything's been done in some fashion, especially when you overcategorise it. Just because something fits into some vague definition of a cliche (even something extremely rare is a cliche on Tropes...) doesn't make it bad. I pity any writer who tries to avoid the prat falls of TV tropes.

http://tvtropes.org/.../TropesAreTools

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:24 AM

Of course, some TropeRs are also tools. But that's true of anyone. icon-fire.gif

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SO OKAY IT'S AVERAGE

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:47 AM

http://blog.toonzone...nce--tv-tropes/

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:49 AM

I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.

Edited by The Ambassador, 16 August 2009 - 04:51 AM.

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Mar 13 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't buy a Porsche *just* for how it looks, after all. It's got to perform, too. Maybe tie you up, if you're into that.

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#17 HellCat

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 04:55 AM

QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

#18 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Aug 16 2009, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Ambassador @ Aug 16 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly could not fail to disagree with you more.

Seems TVTropes is suffering form a bad case of Hype Backlash.


Old joke is old.

They got that covered too.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:50 AM

I love TV Tropes. They basically take the analysis that all (script)writers worth their pay should be doing anyway and put it in clear easy-to-read wiki format. It's like Cliff Notes for the process of writing.

Plus it's fun going through their "Crowning Moment of" and "Nightmare Fuel" pages as a way to remember those, er, memorable scenes in various stories and discover new stories.

Plus their "Wild Mass Guessing" pages are shrines of entertaining self-aware fanwank.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:05 AM

Crowning Music is a great way to share good songs by name (and youtube links). I'm a troper, and all I can say is Overdosing On TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.
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