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@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.


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#1 Megaplex Prime

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:00 AM

I have this idea I think is rather insane because a.) I don't know if it's ever been done or is approved of in a fan-based general consensus and b.) it will permanently warp a favorite TF.

I was thinking that for this Botcon, when I attend, I would want the celebs there to autograph a Transformer. No, not the package it's in, the ACTUAL Transformer. Like, physically write on the plastic.

I consider this because whatever piece or part the signature is on is considered the valuable part, right? Well, if you have the VAs sign the package, it's the package that's valuable. If ever you decide to open the toy, the actual figure becomes no more valuable than any other copy of it. That, and if you decide never to open it, well, you can never play with it either. Catch 22, of sorts.

So I was thinking, for example, of bringing my BW10 Megatron to have David Kaye scrawl his signature in permanent ink all down the side of it in dino mode, thus making my Megs one of the most valuable out there, because the figure itself was signed by the VA. Not its PACKAGE, but the figure itself, which is really what matters in the grand scheme of things, the ACTUAL TF FIGURE, you know?

I was also planning on snaggin a convention exclusive, say for example Banzai-tron, and have all the celebs I can get face time with to ALL scrawl their sig onto it, all up and down its hull in vehicle mode. Not only would it be a convention piece, it will be a PRICELESS momento.

Is this a crazy idea? icon-wildride.gif icon-blitz.gif icon-ball.gif icon-trant.gif icon-op.gif

I'm strongly considering doing it anyway now, but just wanna know what people think first before I fully go through with it.

Edited by Galvaplex MPH, 27 May 2009 - 05:02 AM.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:37 AM

My TM Rattrap and Dinobot are signed by Scott RTs on his wheel and Dinobots is along his back

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:39 AM

Sounds kind of greedy.


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Posted 27 May 2009 - 07:07 AM

I got my BW10 Ultra Megatron autographed by David Kaye. Sharpie on the dino-torso!

It's considered bad form, though, to get something autographed for the sole purpose of selling it. "I don't want to see this on eBay!" isn't a colloquialism for the heck of it.

Edited by The Walky, 27 May 2009 - 07:08 AM.


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Posted 27 May 2009 - 07:59 AM

Autographs should be entirely for sentimental value.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 08:49 AM

The only signature that would be of any value to me would be the mainframe designer who decided Blackarachnia wasn't going to look like a gold Tarantulas
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:00 AM

I'd just think that the ink would smudge off easily.

#8 Megaplex Prime

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:25 AM

Wait, why do you think I'd SELL it? I never mentioned that anywhere! icon-depth.gif

I said valuable in a sense that meant both sentimental but as well as monetary. Just the fact of owning something that literally could be sold for many MANY times its actual value is a good thought; I'm a collector. Don't we get off on the fact that we own high-worth things? Isn't the point to acquire the high-worth things? The higher the worth the more valuable in both senses? And the more valuable the longer and deeper we hold onto them? At least for me it is. I hold on tighter to the more valuable things, and muse about their monetary value, but never really follow through with selling them; that's the point of collecting.

Believe me, I know the value of sentiment. For example, all the BW toys my mother bought for me without my ever asking; I consider those my most valuable pieces and I would NEVER sell them.

At any rate, I was just musing aloud how much it could go for is all when the day comes that I do pass it on (on my grave, crowbar-pried from my cold, dead hands, that is). icon-hotrod.gif

And permanent ink doesn't smudge too much (or much at all) actually, if it's just one layer, and so long as you let it dry.

Anyway, cool, I'm gone do'it! icon-ironhide.gif
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:04 AM

Part of the hype for the Mayuko Iwasa custom Binaltech Meister was the fact that not only did she design the toy's color scheme she also autographed it.

So autographed TFs have been known in the fandom for a while.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:12 AM

Greed was never part of the equasion

First I really dint have anything else for Scott to sign the BW Rhino set was not out yet
And second I thought it would be awsome to do

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Galvaplex MPH @ May 27 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't we get off on the fact that we own high-worth things? Isn't the point to acquire the high-worth things?


Uh... no?

The point is to acquire fun things. If "worth" (which unambiguously equates to "financial value") is your goal, you are seriously in the wrong business. Try the stock market instead.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 01:30 PM

I bet Weird Al will be signing more Wreck Gar figures than pieces of paper.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:05 PM

^ A dream of mine.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE(Bocc Kob @ May 27 2009, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I bet Weird Al will be signing more Wreck Gar figures than pieces of paper.


That fact alone makes me sadder than words can convey that I'm not going.

Okay, I'm more like, "Well, damn, that would have been cool," but still. :[

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:03 PM

Honestly I think a sealed autographed figure would be worth more than a loose autographed one. Cuz that's just how collectibles tend to roll. Sealed toys are more valuable, and it's likely no one's going to open an autographed one anyways.

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I'm a collector. Don't we get off on the fact that we own high-worth things? Isn't the point to acquire the high-worth things? The higher the worth the more valuable in both senses? And the more valuable the longer and deeper we hold onto them? At least for me it is. I hold on tighter to the more valuable things, and muse about their monetary value, but never really follow through with selling them; that's the point of collecting.


Eh, some of us really don't collect for those reasons at all. I don't care about worth all that much. I love some of my cheapest minicons a lot more than some of the much pricier and semi rare ones.

I'm a collector because I like Transformers. It's really not a value game to me.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:47 PM

Nothing's wrong with getting figures autographed. I got my touched-up Swindle autographed by Wyatt- I have no plans to sell this sucker.



I've got another MISB autographed as well, but again, no plans to sell anytime soon as I consider that awesome memorabilia.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(repowers @ May 27 2009, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Galvaplex MPH @ May 27 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't we get off on the fact that we own high-worth things? Isn't the point to acquire the high-worth things?


Uh... no?

The point is to acquire fun things. If "worth" (which unambiguously equates to "financial value") is your goal, you are seriously in the wrong business. Try the stock market instead.


I don't think you even read the rest of my post. Like AT ALL.

And you're the one with the Freudian slip, calling it a BUSINESS. Since when did I ever mention anything about this being a business? icon-depth.gif And never have I said anywhere that I had plans to sell anything, again, like AT ALL. I say "worth," and immediately, regardless of even trying to consider what I really meant, people automatically jump to WORTH=SELL=MONEY=CAPITALIST PIG. What we hate most are just reflections of aspects of ourselves that we just don't want to acknowledge. To me, sentiment translates to worth, which CAN translate to off-the-charts monetary worth, but not necessarily WILL. But I plan to horde all said worth to myself anyway and never let it go. Happy? icon-primal.gif Or, I can sell my stash one day, give others a chance to own'em, make a little dough on the side. In fact, at the end of the day, I can truly do whatever the hell I want with it; it's my stuff. So back off.

Anyway, I also think I'm going to try and get a Nexus Maximus and have that graffiti'ed on too. Special toy, special "decorations," even more special WORTH.

Edited by Galvaplex MPH, 27 May 2009 - 09:32 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:46 PM

I have a bunch of autographs on my Prime voice changer helmet. Cullen's is on the tippy top.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:46 AM

QUOTE(Galvaplex MPH @ May 27 2009, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I say "worth," and immediately, regardless of even trying to consider what I really meant, people automatically jump to WORTH=SELL=MONEY


Well, what can I tell ya? As Walky likes to say, words mean things.
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