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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.


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#41 Freddycon

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:43 PM

Just got myself a Thrust and Autobot Gears from the new releases of the ROTF line

#42 Freddycon

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 03:29 PM

Added MP Skywarp (Wal-Mart Edition) to my collection today. Freddycon is a happy man!

#43 Freddycon

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:43 AM

Thank you Kikjiji! Got me a Classics Astrotrain!

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 12:31 PM

Just got Human Alliance Skids w/ Arcee and Mikaela Banes today.

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 06:49 AM

Have added Jolt, Skids & Mudflap Ice-cream truck twins, Dead End, and Blazemaster to the series!

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 08:58 AM

Have added Decepticon Bludgeon, and Bruticus Maximus to my ROTF line. Also just got a Cybertron Sky Shadow and a junker Armada Cyclonus to my collection, too! (Gotta love having friends who find cool swag like this for me!)

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 06:46 PM

Added ROTF Superion, G1 Thunderclash, ROTF Brakedown, 2007 Movie Incinerator, and Wreckage to my sets!

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 06:38 PM

Have added a lot lately, just haven't updated! It's not that I'm lazy, just selectively active!

ROTF Scattorshot, Skystalker, and Brakedown
HftD Brimstone, Breakaway, Crankstart, and Hubcap
Night Ops Ratchet, Payload, and Seaspray
Autobot Drift, Thrust, WfC Optimus Prime,and WfC Bumblebee

#49 Freddycon

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:49 PM

OK, it's been almost three years since I last updated and for that I apologize... Yes I am a lazy slagger! lol! Here is the most current list of my Plastic Crack Addiction!

Glen Hawkins?s TRANSFORMERS List

Generation 1

Autobots-
Autobot Grapple (Re-Issue)
Autobot Jazz (Re-Issue)
Beachcomber
Blaster (With Electro-scrambler rifle)
Brawn
Bumblebee (Heroes of Cybertron Keychain version)
Chase (Throttlebot)
Crosshairs (Badly damaged junker, does have targetmaster Pinpointer)
Fireflight (Aerialbot, with handgun)
Gears
Grapple
Groove (with twin Vaporator weapons)
Minispy Jeep (Blue)
Optimus Prime (Cab, Trailer, 1 missile, and Ion Rifle)
Powerdasher Drill Tank
Ricochet (Re-Issue)
Rodimus Prime (Re-Issue)
Rollbar (Throttlebot)
Searchlight (Throttlebot)
Silverstreak (Re-Issue)
Smokescreen (Re-Issue)
Steeljaw (complete with weapons)
Thunderclash (No weapons or trailer, just Robot)
Topspin (Jumpstarter, with weapon)
Twin Twist (Jumpstarter, has weapon and tech spec)
Wide Load (Throttlebot)

Decepticons-
Cutthroat (No weapons)
Dead End (Stunticon, complete with handgun, vehicle weapon, and tech spec)
Kickback (Insecticon, with machine gun)
Laserbeak
Mixmaster (Constructicon, no weapons/accessories)
Overkill (No weapons)
Roadgrabber (Inner Pretender robot only)
Seawing (No weapons)
Soundwave (TRU Re-Issue)


Generation 2

Autobots-
Inferno (No weapons, stickers or hands)

Decepticons-
Combat Hero Megatron (No fusion cannon, missiles, or pistol)

Armada

Dune Runner (Mimi-con)
Unicron (Junker, missing many parts and all accessories)
Unicron (Complete with Dead End Mini-Con)
Firebot (Mini-Con)

Autobots-
Optimus Prime
Optimus Prime (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)

Decepticons-
Cyclonus (No arms, missiles, or Cyber Key)
Demolishor (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)
Megatron (No missile, antennae, or Mini-con, missing trap part)

Energon

Autobots-
Optimus Prime (Version 3 w/ faceplate) (No weapons, only 2 add-ons, Helicopter and Train)
Energon Hot Shot
Omega Supreme (No head, missiles, and missing some weapons)

Decepticons-
Kickback (No Energon chip or weapon)
Megatron (No gun, tank Mini-con, or sword)
Starscream (McDonald?s Happy Meal toy version)

Cybertron

Autobots-
Galaxy Force Vector Prime (with sword, no Cyber Key or Mini-Con)
Metroplex (with Staff, no Key)
Optimus Prime (Leader class, no gun, missiles, ears, Key, and 1 wing missing)
Vector Prime (No sword, Cyber key, or Mini-Con)

Decepticons-
Buzzsaw (No missiles or Key)
Hardtop (No weapons or Key)
Mudflap (No rifle, chip or Key)
Sky Shadow (No rifles or Cyber Key)

Masterpiece

Autobots-
MP-01 Optimus Prime (No box, weapons or accessories other than Matrix)
MP-04 Optimus Prime (With Ion Rifle, Matrix, Energon Axe, and Display stand)

Decepticons
MP-05 Megatron (Complete NM in box)
Skywarp (Wal-Mart Edition)

C.H.U.G. (Classics Henkei/Universe/Generations)

Autobots-
Air Raid (Fall of Cybertron)
Autobot Blades
Autobot Blaster w/ Blockrock
Autobot Drift
Autobot Jazz (Fall of Cybertron version)
Blurr
Bumblebee
Cliffjumper
Cliffjumper (Cybertron mode)
Cybertron Bumblebee
Cybertron Optimus Prime
Grimlock
Griimlock (Fall of Cybertron)
Huffer w/ Caliburst
Inferno
Ironhide
Jetfire
Leadfoot w/ Pinpointer
Mirage
Optimus Prime (Generation 2 deco)
Optimus Prime (Fall of Cybertron version)
Powerglide
Prowl
Red Alert
Rodimus
Searchlight w/ Backwind
Sergeant Kup
Sideswipe
Sideswipe (Fall of Cybertron)
Silverbolt
Silverstreak
Skyburst w/ Aerialbots
Sunstreaker
Tread Bolt
Ultra Magnus (Fall of Cybertron)
Warpath
Wheeljack

Decepticons-
Acid Storm
Astrotrain (Triple-Changer)
Axor
Blast Off (Fall of Cybertron version)
Brawl (Fall of Cybertron version)
Bombshock w/ Combaticons
Cybertron Megatron
Cybertron Soundwave
Decepticon Drop Shot
Decepticon Heavy Load w/ Mini-Con Drill Bit
Dirge
Galvatron
Icepick w/ Chainclaw
Kickback (Fall of Cybertron)
Megatron
Onslaught
Onslaught (Fall of Cybertron version)
Scourge
Shockwave (Fall of Cybertron version)
Skullgrin
Sledge w/ Throttler
Smolder w/ Chopster
Starscream
Starscream (Fall of Cybertron)
Stormcloud
Swindle (Fall of Cybertron Version)
Tankor
Thrust
Thundercracker
Thunderwing
Vortex (Fall of Cybertron version)

Transformers- The Movie (2007)

Autobots-
Autobot Camshaft
Autobot Jazz (Premium)
Bumblebee (2009 Concept Camaro)
Cliffjumper
Final Battle Jazz (No missile)
Ironhide (Premium)
Landmine
Longarm
Optimus Prime (Leader Class)
Protoform Optimus Prime
Salvage
Stealth Bumblebee

Decepticons-
Barricade w/ Frenzy (Premium)
Blackout
Bonecrusher
Deep Space Starscream
Dreadwing (Missing right wing and one flame missile)
Dropkick
Incinerator
Jungle Bonecrusher
Megatron (Leader Class, Premium)
Overcast
Protoform Starscream
Scorponok
Stockade
Thundercracker
Wreckage

Transformers- Animated

Autobots-
Autobot Jazz
Autobot Ratchet
Autobot Ratchet (Activator)
Autobot Ratchet (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)
Blurr
Bumblebee
Bumblebee (Activator)
Bumblebee (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)
Elite Guard Bumblebee
Grimlock
Jetfire
Jetstorm
Optimus Prime (The Battle Begins 2-Pack)
Optimus Prime (Cybertron Mode)
Optimus Prime (Voyager Class Fire truck)
Prowl (Deluxe Class)
Prowl (Legends Class)
Rescue Ratchet
Samurai Prowl
Sentinel Prime
Snarl
Swoop
Ultra Magnus

Decepticons-
Blackarachnia
Blazing Lockdown
Lockdown
Lugnut
Lugnut (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)
Megatron (Leader Class)
Megatron (McDonald?s Happy Meal version)
Megatron (The Battle Begins 2-Pack)
Oil Slick
Shockwave (Purple version)
Skywarp
Soundwave w/ Laserbeak
Starscream (Voyager Class)
Starscream (Legends Class)
Stealth Lockdown
Sunstorm
Swindle
Waspinator



Transformers- Revenge of the Fallen

Autobots-
Arcee
Armorhide (Deluxe Class)
Autobot Gears
Autobot Skids
Autobot Skids and Mudflap 2-pack Ice Cream Truck Twins
Autobot Wheelie
Blazemaster
Breakaway
Bumblebee
Chromia
Desert Tracker Ratchet
Hubcap
Human Alliance Bumblebee
Human Alliance Sideswipe w/ Corporal Reese
Human Alliance Skids w/ Mikaela and Arcee
Ironhide
Jetfire (Leader Class)
Jolt
Mudflap
Optimus Prime (Leader Class)
Scattorshot
Sideswipe
Smokescreen
Superion Maximus (Aerialbots- Air Raid, Airrazor, Fireflight, Silverbolt, Skydive)
Swerve

Decepticons-
Barricade (Human Alliance w/ Frenzy)
Brakedown
Bruticus Maximus (Combaticons- Onslaught, Blast Off, Decepticon Brawl, Swindle, Vortex)
Constructicon Devastator (Hightower, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Rampage, Scavenger, Scrapper)
Dead End (Deluxe Class)
Decepticon Bludgeon
Deep Desert Brawl
Demolishor
Dirge
Ejector
Grindor (Missing right arm)
Megatron (Leader Class)
Mixmaster
Rampage
Ravage
Scalpel
Sideways
Skystalker
Sonar
Soundwave
Stalker Scorponok
Starscream
The Fallen
Thrust

Hunt for the Decepticons
Autobots-
Battle Blades Bumblebee
Battle Blades Optimus Prime
Breacher
Elita-1
Highbrow
Human Alliance Jazz w/ Colonel Lennox
Ironhide
Night Ops Ratchet
Seaspray
Sidearm Sideswipe
Tomahawk

Decepticons-
Brimstone
Crankstart
Darkmount
Hailstorm
Jetblade
Mindwipe
Oil Pan
Payload
Starscream (Leader Class)
Terradive
The Fallen

Reveal the Shield
Bumblebee
Cyclonus (w/ Nightstick Targetmaster)
Fallback
Insecticon
Mindset
Optimus Prime
Perceptor
Rodimus (w/ Matrix of Leadership)
Special Ops Jazz
Turbo Tracks
Windcharger
Wreck-Gar

Dark of the Moon

Autobots-
Air Raid
Alliance Bumblebee (Missing head, missile, and launcher)
Arcee
Autobot Jazz
Bumblebee
Bumblebee (Translucent w/cannons version)
Ironhide (Voyager Class)
Jolt
Movie Exclusive Bumblebee
Movie Exclusive Sideswipe
Optimus Prime (Voyager Class)
Powerglide
Ratchet
Roadbuster
Sentinel Prime (Leader Class)
Sentinel Prime (Deluxe Class)
Sideswipe
Skyhammer
Topspin
Ultimate Bumblebee
Ultimate Optimus Prime

Decepticons-
Barricade
Crankcase
Darksteel
Laserbeak
Megatron(Voyager Class)
Shockwave (Purple variant)
Space Case
Starscream (Voyager)
Starscream (Deluxe)
Thundercracker

Transformers: Prime

Autobots-
Arcee
Autobot Ratchet
Bulkhead
Bumblebee
Bumblebee (Deluxe Class, from B?Bee vs. Starscream DVD 2-Pack)
Cliffjumper
Optimus Prime
Wheeljack

Decepticons-
Dreadwing (Voyager Class)
Megatron
Soundwave
Starscream (Deluxe class, from B?Bee vs. Starscream DVD 2-Pack)
Starscream (Voyager Class)
Vehicon (Legends Class)

Beast Hunters
Autobots-
Beast Hunter Optimus Prime
Bumblebee
Optimus Prime (Voyager Class)
Prowl (Cyberverse Class)
Smokescreen (Cyberverse Class)
Wheeljack


Decepticons-
Shockwave (Voyager Class)
Soundwave (With Ravage Minicon)

Predacons-
Dragon Fire Predaking
Hun-Gurr (Cyberverse Class)
Lazerback
Predaking (Voyager Class)
Twinstrike (Cyberverse class)

Knock-Off Transformers

?Disco Devastator? Dollar store (Miscolored) versions of the G1 Constructicons- Bonecrusher, Hook, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Scavenger, & Scrapper
?Road Bot? Transforming Hummer 3 that becomes a robot warrior with Sword, Spear and Shield
?Truck-Bot? A Dollar Store robot that turns into a red semi, with gun and axe

Junker bots/ Parts
DOTM Alliance Bumblebee (No head, or right arm/missile launcher)
TF:TM Wiretap V20 (No left leg or right arm)
DOTM Ratchet parts (2 forearms, left back panel, stretcher cage and chest piece)
G1 Ultra Magnus parts (Gun, trailer, chest piece, 1 rocket launcher, pelvic piece)
G1 Prime Cab (Missing all accessories)
TF:TM Bumblebee (Missing head and left arm)
G1 Onslaught parts (Twin mortar cannons)
G1 Whirl part (Photon beam rifle)
G1 Buzzsaw/Laserbeak part (Right mortar cannon)
G1 Doubledealer part (2 Pc. Missile)
G1 Shockwave part (Gun barrel)
G1 Starscream part (Missile launcher)
G1 Sludge parts (left rear dino leg, and tail, sword)
G1 Scattorshot parts (Computron fists, acid-pellet gun)
G1 Galvatron part (Particle cannon barrel)
G1 Trailbreaker part (Right fist)
G1 Predaking parts (Left fist, sword)
Energon Tidal Wave (Missing arms and Ramjet Mini-con)


#50 Freddycon

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:32 AM

Just added Autobot Springer and Blitzwing to my Generations set! Squeee!

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 01:15 AM

Orion Pax, Bumblebee, Trailcutter, and Megatron from the new Generations series have joined the lineup!

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:39 AM

Finally got Predacon Rippersnapper, Blight, and Windrazor to be able to complete Abominus!