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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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#1 crazyjw18

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 01:30 AM

Well, I'm guessing that there won't be a huge amount of people interested in this, as PS3 seems to be the least loved current system around here, but this game is truly awesome, so I'm going to rant about it anyways.

My friend downloaded the demo while he was over a couple of weeks ago, and I had to curse him because after only a few minutes playing I knew I must own this. Cue an early mornning trip out to Gamestop.

It's taken me from then till now to actually beat it. My time shows around 60 hours, but that's deceptive on a couple of fronts. One is that I often had to go back and retry missions(easily an hour down the drain when one goes bad near the end), and the other problem is that I have a habit of leaving the game running while watching a tv show or eating.... Actual game length is prob in the 40-50 hour range.

Anyhow, it's a turn based stategy game, a little bit like FF Tactics. Cept here you're running around each turn almost like you're in the middle of a call of duty game. Each turn you get a set number of command points to move your troops. When you select a unit, you move them around third person, and you are actually under live fire while moving. You can stop, aim, and shoot any time during this turn, and can move as far as the action points for that unit will take you. Hiding in grass and crouching behind sandbags help give you ways to protect your units during the other turn as well. You go on a variety of missions, from stopping giant tanks to storming town streets and fortresses.

There are five classes of soldiers, and also your team of officers, who are mostly made up of these classes, plus the tank commander. The classes are scouts, engineers, shocktroopers, lancers, and snipers, each with thier own strengths and weaknesses. Though later on the scouts become a massive force to be reckoned with. You pull your troops from an available pool that expands out to 50, though you only ever have 11 units on the field at maximum. Each unit has a name, a little backstory that gets bigger as you continue to use them, and even their own voice in which they tend to say a few lines. I grew quite attached to my troops, and managed to go through the game without permanently losing a single one.

There are some mystical parts, but mostly it's an in the trenches tanks and soldiers war game, though with a pretty upbeat cast of characters. There's some emotional parts, some really fun parts, and some parts which will make you want to tear your hair out in frustration.

The art is wonderful, and the first thing that seemed to draw a lot of people's interest, including mine. It stays great throughout the game, and though a few of the cutscenes are a bit cheaty on showing action, overall they are very well done, especially since it is a strategy type game. And speaking of cutscenes, my lord. If you like lots of story, this will not dissapoint. The game plays out through a book, most chapters having 1 battle and a few having 2. But each chapter also usually has 5 or more little cutscenes. A few of the videos are quite awesome, especially when the much dreaded valkyria and a few superweapons show up.

Anyways, if you enjoy tactical games like this, I highly recommend picking it up. It's easily the best RPG that's been on the ps3, and is probably my favorite game for the system so far.




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Posted 16 December 2008 - 08:31 PM

It sucks this game bombed so horribly.

As usual, quality doesn't sell.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 08:44 PM

It is a shame the game hasn't sold well. I really love this game. The icing on the cake for me was the inclusion of Vyse and Aika.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 07:13 PM

Arise from the ashes!

 

So the PS4 remake is coming out tomorrow. Though I already own the original PS3 version, mine is already on its way and should reach my doorstep tomorrow. :)

 

Anyone else here buying it?

 

 

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 07:16 PM

Funnily enough the PC version of this sold quite well, so that's nice. It's got a good port too.


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Posted 16 May 2016 - 10:35 PM

I might. I already have a copy on the PS3, though I haven't played it yet. (Well played as in really sat down and invested in it. I know how it plays) 

 

Might get the port when it's cheap enough. I'm guessing there isn't much extra added.


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 02:25 AM

I got the PC version.. Love it.

 

It's sad that a game about a fictional WW2 -like- war is actually tackling more of the issues than real WW2 games do.


Edited by Tm_Silverclaw, 17 May 2016 - 02:26 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2016 - 09:34 PM

Got VC:R yesterday; played until chapter 3. :)


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Posted 19 May 2016 - 08:59 PM

I still haven't played the game yet due to long work hours, but boy was I pleasantly surprised to have gotten the Limited Edition Squad 7 Armored Case version of the game. Can't wait to get started on playing the game this weekend.

 

 

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 02:04 AM

Played Chapter 4. The initial unit-shuffle is going all Darcsen Hater on me, as I ended up with only one Darcsen available for use. :p Said Darcsen is one of my mainstay engineers Nadine, though, so it's all good. :thumbsup

 

Also, B-ranks all around so far, which is making my unit level progression much faster than before. :D





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