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@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.


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#41 Powered Convoy

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 08:22 AM

Updated with March 2010 Revenge items and other miscellaneous stuff.

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 05:21 AM

If that Rumble (red) and overkill are a set I'll pick it up, but I don't need another lazerbeak and Frenzy (blue)
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 06:27 PM

Updated with Monochrome Donald Duck, G1 EZ Collection Devastator, Canceled Broadcast, and Dark Skyfire.

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 02:39 AM

Is BBTS losing it with their date listing or has Takara secretly bumped the release of MP-01B Masterpiece Convoy up to the end of this month rather than the start of 2010? It would really surprise me if this were true...

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 09:36 AM

TFSource supposedly too. But e-Hobby still says January.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 08:58 AM

2008/2009/2010 TakaraTomy Release Schedule.

NightViper & I have updated with the various Japanese Animated releases, Disney Label, & Alternity Starscream & Skywarp.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 12:12 PM

Permanent Link To Article.

Added Masterpiece MP-03G Ghost Starscream - July Release.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 01:50 PM

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May 29, 2010
Alternity A-04 Okamora Orochi/Starscream (White) - 4,500 Yen
Alternity A-04 Okamora Orochi/Skywarp (Purple) - 4,500 Yen
Device Label Transforming USB Flash Memory (2GB) Cheetor - 3,800 Yen
Device Label Transforming Operating USB Hub Broadblast - 6,500 Yen (originally planned for late 2009, then cancelled and resolicited)


OK so how does this work, I'm sure the stores in Japan will have this stuff on the shelf on that date or after, but what about on line stores like BBTS or TF Source? I know TF Source will send me a e mail when it ships but I'm just wounder when they might have it?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:58 PM

Probably first or second week of June I imagine.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:54 PM

The Seeker Alternities are Mitsuoka Orochi, not Okamori, by the way. Okamori is an inaccurate transcription of the characters used to spell Mitsuoka. Or so I've been told. Can't read the stuff myself.

But that might be important, depending on how store search functions work.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:37 PM

Yeah, the entries are so old now we never ended up correcting them. Thanks for the heads up!

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Apr 28 2010, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Probably first or second week of June I imagine.

OK so I'll have mine in August. icon-screamer.gif unless the mail improves by then...

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:16 PM

Permanent Link To Article.

Added all releases up to late September 2010.

Including new Animated, Autobot Alliance, 2010 Unicron, and Convoy Sleep Mode.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:48 PM

Hm, I can't help but think September's releases are the last Animated they're going to release. Does that mean Japan won't get Oil Slick, Ratbat or Ironhide, despite Ironhide's prominence in the intro?
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:05 PM

There might be some more they slip into there. I would think they'd get at least Ironhide & Oil Slick.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 06:38 PM

The only one I am truely interested in is HA Jazz. I can't wait for him!

I'm sure I'll end up buying more, but he's the priority!

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:17 PM

No I'm stoked for him!

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 10:45 PM

Another delay for DL Blaster! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT!

Sorry had to vent...

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 07:58 AM

Well at least Takara put his page online, so he should be coming. I'm surprised how early it's up though. Maybe he'll be out sooner than the end of July?

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ May 29 2010, 07:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well at least Takara put his page online, so he should be coming. I'm surprised how early it's up though. Maybe he'll be out sooner than the end of July?

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I hope so. All I know is that will all the delays he had better do something bad ass when I hook in up to my computer, something that will make the Ravage/ Tigatron digi pets look like MS Paint.

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