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#21 Detour

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:03 AM

So, what, whenever someone doesn't like something but you have no problem with it, you're gonna blame em of having Asperger's?

I never said I hated the new body, I just asked where he got it. If it was explained.
Then you said it was the same body, just with Guido's art style... so I posted that to show that it isn't.

Edited by Detour, 27 November 2008 - 02:12 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:27 AM

Eh, I think it's close enough. It's got the details on the head, and the wheels in the legs, and all that. Guido's just getting away from Roche's extremely thin steampunky look and giving him normal proportions.

And no, Detour, none of the new bodies are explained. As I said, its just basically left up to Guido to draw 'em how he likes, and Shane's said he feels that Transformers can change their general look whenever they feel like it so he's probably not going to expend energy on explaining it in-storyline.

EDIT: See lonegamer's post, heh.

Edited by Magnusblitz, 28 November 2008 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2008 - 03:35 AM

Actually, Hasbro requested Guido to go with certain designs. Not sure on Kup, but I think that they would've given him a new one after they fully treated him (from the looks of it, off panel). From his post at the IDW board:

QUOTE('Guido')
I do not decide anything all by myself.
Especially NOT just for the sake of "disrespect" toward other artists' work!
We work as a team, everything is discussed before being put on paper. Every single page, every single design. Ask Denton, Shane or Josh.
Also, I suppose Hasbro has the right to ask IDW to incorporate the TF toy designs whenever possible, no?
Hence the change of Prowl, Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, for example. (Hope revealing this won't cause any trouble!).
That said, why nobody wondered why I based my Cliffjumper heavily on EJ's Bumblebee, instead of using toys?
As for my style, I'm not not "technic" like E.J.'s or Don's, not even closer. I'm one who think about the TF as living characters first, robots then (like in BW, TF Animated).
My background as TF artist is heavily based on the G1/Armada animation art: this maybe be my limit, but I'm proud of it. Hopefully I'm good on other aspects.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 07:24 AM

tbh im hugging loveing this series just as much as i loveed Simons stuff, nice milatary structure, characterisation, and TBH for about 6 month i had been toying with the idea of pitching a Spotlight Jazz story, but Shane has gone and nailed exactly the type of Jazz i wanted to see.

also dont care if there is a difference between Guido And Nick, both look ace,
you want an answer for the new designs here you go

Bumbleebee
"Hey guys you look way differnt now"

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"Classics Designs are in Vogue baby"

Kup
"I have the mind of a 60,000 year old but damn if it aint the body of 20 year old"

also you wanna know where the Matrix was

Jazz
"He has the matrix now"

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"Where he find it"

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#25 Bass X0

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 08:21 AM

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1) Why is Cybertron no longer poisonous and stormy?


Could they be on the Cybertron that was previously Gorlam Prime?
It all began in '84. Kept on rollin' in '85. The pieces were in place in '86, and it came to an end in '87. But now it comes, and here we go. Transformers is here again. Nothing's gonna stop it 'cause it's 1988!

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:03 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Nov 27 2008, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, what, whenever someone doesn't like something but you have no problem with it, you're gonna blame em of having Asperger's?


At the time, I was battling your weird vendettas both on here and on the Wiki, where at the latter you were absolutely determined to put more petty negative things on Dan Didio's page because I guess you just read Batman RIP, despite repeated edits by others to remove them. Look, we get it. You hate Dan Didio. Congratulations!

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:28 AM

Given that Kup was said to be recovering in one of the Spotlights, I just assumed that he'd been given a new body for good measure. Makes perfect sense, given the shocking state of his old one.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:45 AM

New/different bodies are par for the course in Transformers. Try to find an explanation for it and your head will explode. icon-wheelie.gif


Personally I'm enjoying the series. Sure it started out slow but it's becoming quite a fun read, I just hope it can STAY fun and not become boring again. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:20 AM

Oh yeah, EJ Su posted a memorial on his DA page.



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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:23 AM

I just have one nitpick with it I guess.

WHY IS ROADBUSTER SO HUGE NOW?

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE(Wildwade @ Nov 27 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, EJ Su posted a memorial on his DA page.



Alas, Sony Mylo Ratbat. We hardly knew ye.


Yeah, that redesign was awesome. I do not welcome the new one.

#32 Blues

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:35 AM

I thought he alt mode was a cd player the first (only?) time we saw ratbat.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:59 AM

I very, very much like this Jazz. And the what Cliffjumper said about how "this never gets old" makes me wonder about how many times Jazz and Kup have come across each other in the past.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:00 PM

I like the series a lot, I don't really care about all of the nitpicks and the tie-ins that most are so concerned with. It makes for a good read this way. Why does Kup have a new body? Because he would have looked RIDICULOUS in the body from his spotlight.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:22 PM

I liked the government photo of Megatron having the tiny text "Codename: MEGAMAN" on it.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE(Blot @ Nov 27 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I liked the government photo of Megatron having the tiny text "Codename: MEGAMAN" on it.


eh, well he is a super fighting robot.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE(Magnusblitz @ Nov 26 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And... the Matrix. I can't recall it featuring in any of the previous IDW stories, but maybe it's there. (Did Nova have it? But its not as if Prime took it from him in Revelations...) Just seems like more cartoon stuff shoe-horned in here.

I was confused about that for all of the -Ation series, at least since Nova reappeared.

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Nov 27 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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1) Why is Cybertron no longer poisonous and stormy?


Could they be on the Cybertron that was previously Gorlam Prime?

That just raises the question (for me at least) of what happened to the last inhabitants.

QUOTE(The Walky @ Nov 27 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Wildwade @ Nov 27 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, EJ Su posted a memorial on his DA page.



Alas, Sony Mylo Ratbat. We hardly knew ye.

Yeah, that redesign was awesome. I do not welcome the new one.

Yeah, I wanted a Real Gear Ratbat so bad with that mode.

QUOTE(Blues @ Nov 27 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he alt mode was a cd player the first (only?) time we saw ratbat.

I thought so too, I guess he became a tape because they got Soundwave back, so they can work together/SW can control him better.

I think this one was my favorite so far, Jazz is just so awesome, and useing Mirage for sentry duty makes so much sense, I was wondering who the big guy was man Roadbuster's big, his face reminds me of Tankor.

And is it too hard to assume after his spotlight, Kup recovered and maybe became more open to getting upgrades? I wonder how old he is.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE(Fenix Twilight @ Nov 27 2008, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And is it too hard to assume after his spotlight, Kup recovered and maybe became more open to getting upgrades? I wonder how old he is.


That doesn't have to be the only solution. We don't ever hear that Kup never gets upgrades. Just that he's stubborn about it, and so he's incompatible with most modern technology. It's easy to assume that if Kup looks different now than he did before, it's that they found some old parts that would work with him. That's way more likely than finding the exact same old parts he had before.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:40 PM

I think they built him a brand new body and transferred his spark to that robo-cigar he *never takes out of his mouth!*

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 12:04 AM

I want to say, for posterity, that I love the robo-cigar. So much. It was worth bringing Kup back for all on its own.



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