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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#21 TFDoc

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE(StarScreamZX @ Oct 5 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep the Legends coming I say. Hopefully, Gears will get the Legends treatment as well!




Keep them coming, INDEED!

As soon as I seen Beachcomber, it made me wish deeply for Legends Seaspray!





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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:29 PM

Folks:

The thing I like best about these 3 is that their designs are so well-executed. Jazz was the first I found, and I was very impressed by his fine details and excellent head sculpt. I honestly can't think of a Legends class head that is so well-done. Many of them have had chunky details that are meant to suggest the features, but Jazz holds up well under very close scrutiny. Another great thing about Jazz is his car mode - it needs paint on the windows, sure, but it's very streamlined, with no protruding hinges or awkward bits.




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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:53 PM

Yup, Jazz's head is spot on. All he needs now is a Classic Pretender shell to snuggle up in, and he's golden. icon-hotrod.gif

The first round of pics made some of the upcoming Legends look a bit odd (Bee and Beachcomber in particular), but that latest set of pics has them looking excellent as well.




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Posted 05 October 2008 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE(StarScreamZX @ Oct 5 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup, Jazz's head is spot on. All he needs now is a Classic Pretender shell to snuggle up in, and he's golden. icon-hotrod.gif

The first round of pics made some of the upcoming Legends look a bit odd (Bee and Beachcomber in particular), but that latest set of pics has them looking excellent as well.



Ignore that pic. We've seen Brawn in package and he looks horrible, I'm sure Bumblebee and Beachcomber will look just as bad(or just not as good, you decide). icon-fire.gif

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:56 PM

Ahhhh how did I miss that ???? Yowsers, you're right.
Well, I'm not much of a painter, but I'll have to try and at least give Brawn some black wheels when I get him.

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 05:03 PM

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Ahhhh how did I miss that ???? Yowsers, you're right.


Sorry to be the ants invading your picnic. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE(Robogeek1973 @ Oct 5 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(StarScreamZX @ Oct 5 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup, Jazz's head is spot on. All he needs now is a Classic Pretender shell to snuggle up in, and he's golden. icon-hotrod.gif

The first round of pics made some of the upcoming Legends look a bit odd (Bee and Beachcomber in particular), but that latest set of pics has them looking excellent as well.



Ignore that pic. We've seen Brawn in package and he looks horrible, I'm sure Bumblebee and Beachcomber will look just as bad(or just not as good, you decide). icon-fire.gif


Countering that lack of paint, of course, is the fact that it's h-in' Brawn Brawn Brawn! Happy! The same goes for BC and BB. Super duper cool.

(A little missing paint and a little less unsharp mask on the photo can't detract from that. Heck, the alternative is that chrome-clawed lizard-hipped thing.)

Maybe I'll use a Sharpie to "paint" his wheels.





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Posted 08 October 2008 - 12:05 AM

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There's only one on the reciept. I was talking TFs with the clerk and didn't really pay attention, but when I got stopped in traffic later, I realized I had only been charged for one bot.


Well, so much for the ol' Doc catching a TF price-break from the fat cats. From all signs, it appears that I have officially lost Hound's FREAKIN' WINDSHIELD!!!! icon-wildride.gif

He's still fine enough in bot mode, but there's no two ways, he must be replaced. Darn! icon-screamer.gif

I guess it does present customize/repaint/kitbash possibilities. icon-op.gif

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The Universe gives, but exacts it's own cost

in promised potential and paradise lost


Electro-mechanical hearts still can break

with the loss of a hero, and the hope he can take


"Statue and Darkness"
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 12:17 AM

Jazz is so slick being two hairs away from being pretender Jazz with better articulation and as Hound as back up thay rock


Also almost the perfect size for Fort Max

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE(TFDoc @ Oct 8 2008, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TFDoc @ Oct 4 2008, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's only one on the reciept. I was talking TFs with the clerk and didn't really pay attention, but when I got stopped in traffic later, I realized I had only been charged for one bot.


Well, so much for the ol' Doc catching a TF price-break from the fat cats. From all signs, it appears that I have officially lost Hound's FREAKIN' WINDSHIELD!!!! icon-wildride.gif

He's still fine enough in bot mode, but there's no two ways, he must be replaced. Darn! icon-screamer.gif

I guess it does present customize/repaint/kitbash possibilities. icon-op.gif

No free lunch.


My Hound's windshield was incredibly loose. Look at it and it'll fall off.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 01:55 AM

Yeah their absolutely perfect. I always loved the legends but these feel more like Micromasters 2.0 in terms of quality. I love re-enacting how Meg's had to fly out of the ark after Fort Max blew up the ships reactor core. Poor legends Starscream heh.

Anyways their excellent Megatron is very G2. Hound would be perfect if not for the wheels but thats a small niggle and Jazz is just awesome.

I had to buy extras of these. I painted Megatron's head gunmetal. I just need to see about painting Jazz's windows and hands maybe. I so feel like seeing about dremeling the fists though. Jazz and Hound need guns.

All Meg's needs though is some of that sith electricity. icon-trant.gif

Lets hope they repaint starscream into Skywarp and Thundercracker, that we get a Ricochet or Skstalker, a Detritus or Swindle and a hero Megatron repaint.

Oh and I agree about the pretender shell for Jazz. Just don't forget legends Screamer needs one too!


Edited by SkullGrin, 08 October 2008 - 01:57 AM.


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Posted 08 October 2008 - 05:43 PM

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Yeah their absolutely perfect. I always loved the legends but these feel more like Micromasters 2.0 in terms of quality. I love re-enacting how Meg's had to fly out of the ark after Fort Max blew up the ships reactor core. Poor legends Starscream heh.

Anyways their excellent Megatron is very G2. Hound would be perfect if not for the wheels but thats a small niggle and Jazz is just awesome.

I had to buy extras of these. I painted Megatron's head gunmetal. I just need to see about painting Jazz's windows and hands maybe. I so feel like seeing about dremeling the fists though. Jazz and Hound need guns.

All Meg's needs though is some of that sith electricity. icon-trant.gif

Lets hope they repaint starscream into Skywarp and Thundercracker, that we get a Ricochet or Skstalker, a Detritus or Swindle and a hero Megatron repaint.

Oh and I agree about the pretender shell for Jazz. Just don't forget legends Screamer needs one too!


The Stascream was orignal from Cybertron Legends Thundercracker, and there's a Skywarp, but in a different Legend Starscream mode.

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Animated Prowl is are only Legends Motorcycle. Yet,... motorcycles have always been bigger than the others. Sigh

I really want a Legends Arcee. icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 05:02 AM

I plan to use Legends Prowl to try to put together a scale acurate(as close as possible) Animated vehicle set.

Yeah, cycles always look big for their class, it's kept 6 different Minicons from making into in The Alternate Terrain Divison, instead they stay in bot mode in The Engineering Division.
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in promised potential and paradise lost


Electro-mechanical hearts still can break

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 06:37 AM

I ordered Jazz and Hound from HTS last week and got Jazz and Megatron instead. This'll be the first time I have to send something back to HTS. Irritating.

Jazz is pretty good, but he wants for paint apps and at least one more point of articulation: either head or waist.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 05:12 PM

Just picked Jazz, Hound and Megatron up today. Jazz is an excellent representation of Jazz for the size and with a surprising amount of articulation to boot. Pictures really don't do him justice, and he looks great in pictures as is! Hound is equally as impressive. Like the Animated Activators, I'm just really impressed at how well they pulled off this line. I just did not expect it to be like this.



The only thing I don't like about Megatron is that you can't remove the cannon and put it on his arm, but that's being real nitpicky, I know.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 12:47 PM

From the looks of it, these might be the best legends of the line. I got my TFCC zine and the new legends are a little.... I don't know the word. Wheelie and Rodimus's arms seem to be doors and it looks like it's just a flip and stick. Cosmos look.... kind of hard.


Geeze, I wish I could find these Legends soon, Perhaps K-Mart will restock with the new ones soon. I'm not going to Taget until the 5-packs come out.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 12:49 PM

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The only thing I don't like about Megatron is that you can't remove the cannon and put it on his arm, but that's being real nitpicky, I know.


Its not supposed to go on his arm... no tank Megatron has had his cannon on his arm, even in fiction.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 01:43 PM

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The only thing I don't like about Megatron is that you can't remove the cannon and put it on his arm, but that's being real nitpicky, I know.


Its not supposed to go on his arm... no tank Megatron has had his cannon on his arm, even in fiction.

Classics 2-pack Megatron would like to have a chat with you. Hero Megatron also has clamps on his arm for holding the rockets in place. If that's not cannon enough, turn them around and they look identical to a G1 fusion cannon. Titanium WWI Megatron has posts on his forearm for the cannon and shield to peg on together or seperately, although neither do so very well. The Alternator's Megatron that Kyde hoax'd us on also had a cannon on his arm.

I was just putting forth what I will admit is an unfair nitpick that I wanted something a little more G1 in a G2 homage figure. It's my fault for not putting in another sentence saying as much, although I did think it was already implied. But this is a TF board where people love to harp on such things. So I'll say it here: a fusion cannon on an arm *IS* Megatron, to me at least, and any Megatron figure that pulls that off makes that figure a *better* Megatron in my eyes.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 07:00 AM

Full argeement about any Megs being enhanced by an arm cannon.

The shame is, Hound's windshield shouldn't come off and does, and Megs' cannon should trasnsfer to his arm, and doesn't.
The Universe gives, but exacts it's own cost

in promised potential and paradise lost


Electro-mechanical hearts still can break

with the loss of a hero, and the hope he can take


"Statue and Darkness"
(1st 2 stanzas of the prelude to part 7 - "Gone")

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 06:23 PM

HEY! I found Hound's lost WINDSHIELD! (not pictured)

Also, these make a a great trans-line trio.

Edited by TFDoc, 13 November 2008 - 05:22 AM.

The Universe gives, but exacts it's own cost

in promised potential and paradise lost


Electro-mechanical hearts still can break

with the loss of a hero, and the hope he can take


"Statue and Darkness"
(1st 2 stanzas of the prelude to part 7 - "Gone")