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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#21 Weremole

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE(Paladin @ Aug 30 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow. Lots of stuff considering THEY HAVENT EVEN CONFIRMED "GREENLIGHT" ON SEASON 3 YET.





Speculation and nothing more.


Comicon Hasbro panel: "Weird Al back in soundbooth", "product for season 3 under production". Comicon IDW Panel with Marty Isenberg: "Fall 2009".

Before that we had character designer guys blog with the preview square showing off Jetfire and Jetstorm (along with S2 guys like Swindle and Shockwave) wich are promised to pop up in S3. Guys at Botcon saw those, Arcee and Perceptor.

David Kaye confirming the BW story guys being involved in the season.

S3, while not say confirmed Cartoon Network airdate seems pretty friggin under production to me.

Wich doesn't mean you can't take these with a pinch of salt. I know nothing of this S250 fellow.
The Decepticons in a state of dissaray over half a universe is pretty ripe for shaking up the roster of the last two seasons anyhow.

In any case, even if many of these guys are cameos or background characters to beef up the toy isles this is PACKED.

#22 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:09 PM

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yes..these five are one team,but Brawn is even shorter than BBB
"big beetle"is the biggest one,so far


HAH! FREAKEN CALLED IT!

And with 'big beetle' being the biggest, I tell you, it's BLACKOUT. BLACK. OUT.

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#23 General Tekno

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:09 PM

S250 confirmed Fwiffo's team speculation, for the record.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:23 PM

good guesses fwiff

hee, reminds me of my little fan idea with rodimus and beachcomber
now i really hope rodimus turns into a pizza delivery van

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:38 PM

I was hoping they'd finally confirm whether it's Ratbat or Galvatron who's going to be appearing.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:48 PM

A new cast...Very interesting.
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Posted 30 August 2008 - 02:40 PM

you know
maybe the second team is sent as a replacement for op and crew
i mean, longarm is a prime now, and the autobots know that he's evil now, so he HAS to do something about them. but because they already agreed that they needed to maintain an autobot presence on earth, well then he'll have to send another team. which would explain why it's similar to the current team

i'd like to hear them explain the name rodimus prime though.

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#28 TheAFNYGuy

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 02:58 PM

It'd be very cool to see the secondary team be the "villains" of Season 3, sent by Longarm, who has pinned Optimus as a traitor. A sub-plot of the decepticons amassing throughout the galaxy could lead up to a season finale featuring both Autobot teams.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:29 PM

Definately interesting piece of news here, I can't wait to hear more about it!

#30 Master Fwiffo

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:58 PM

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It'd be very cool to see the secondary team be the "villains" of Season 3, sent by Longarm, who has pinned Optimus as a traitor. A sub-plot of the decepticons amassing throughout the galaxy could lead up to a season finale featuring both Autobot teams.

That... Is the single most brilliant idea I've ever heard. ?Please please PLEASE let it be true.



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#31 Chaotic Descent

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:26 PM

How are they going to have time to use all these characters AND reoccurring characters from previous seasons?? =(

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:46 PM

Its very reminiscent of the Rodimus, Prowl and landmine team from Energon being at odds with Prime, Hotshot, Ironhide, Jetfire and Inferno isn't it?
This'll be good.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:57 PM

OOooooooh.

I wonder if they'll make Cyclonus a chick if they go the Shockwave-lackey route. Would be cool if she was a sterotypical playboy bunny-esque character containing hundreds of deadly weapons...and guns too.

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#34 BlitzwingHaz

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:58 PM

Do you reckon Blackout will look a bit like Scourge (he was a bit beetle like with those wings) and be paired with Cyclonus? Or actually be a bettle and fit in with the Beasts?

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R*da***t,female medic

RED ALERT! WOOWOOWOO! I'm so glad they aren't opposed to bringing back pre-production ideas for the show. Awesome.

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C*******,big rabbit ears

Huh. Guess the "Animated and Universe don't overlap" rule is gone, unless this Cyclonus' only similar trait is the "ears".

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RP,skinny,head looks like Kup

Rodimus Prime, with a head similar to the original G1 toy, I'm guessing?

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St***a,very BM

Strika. Nice. Hoping for the big Jai Alai hands.


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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:22 PM

So they haven't gotten rid of that irritating kid yet? Damn.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:35 PM

So far I am liking this new Character list. It will be good to see Brawn, Cyclonus, Rodimus Prime & Beachcomber back after there long absence.

Still I was hoping we saw the last of Hot Shot after the UT ended, Still I am really looking forward to Strika & Spittor appearing!

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 06:17 PM

Dooood. That's just nuts. And the suspense is gonna put some of us in the nuthouse, some of us in the hospital, and the rest of us will be painting the walls with our own innards. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 06:22 PM

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So they haven't gotten rid of that irritating kid yet? Damn.

We can't get rid of Bumblebee. He's one of the leads and Hasbro loves him.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 06:58 PM

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So they haven't gotten rid of that irritating kid yet? Damn.

We can't get rid of Bumblebee. He's one of the leads and Hasbro loves him.

Hasbro didn't love him till the movie and Wyatt's urging for his inclusion in Animated.
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