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@  Locoman : (31 May 2016 - 09:56 PM)

Tusks doesn't exist in aligned though. Or maybe he does, but in this continuity he needs someone else to work the controls, or maybe by "piano player" the narration implies that Maccadam literally IS the piano. The universe may never know.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (31 May 2016 - 09:55 PM)

Where in Aligned?

@  Plokatron : (31 May 2016 - 09:53 PM)

@Locoman Hmm that can't be right. The piano plays it's self. Thats Tusks not Maccadam. But yeah in Aligned he is Alchemist Prime from what I've read. Still not the G1 universes though so I'm going with the Blue Bar Keep bot as him in Primax Clusters unless I'm pointed out wrong. Edit: Oh AVP said that not just the Aligned continuity. Well I'll just go with the blue bot like I said but say thats how he looks in Primax clusters. Unless proven wrong of course.

@  Locoman : (31 May 2016 - 09:42 PM)

But he's described as having a beard, and Retribution takes place in the aligned continuity where things are weird, and AVP has basically established that he's Alchemist Prime, so...

@  Locoman : (31 May 2016 - 09:42 PM)

no, he's the piano player.

@  Plokatron : (31 May 2016 - 09:40 PM)

@Locoman Was that him then? Cause the wiki only shows the bar keep in Maccadam's entry.

@  Locoman : (31 May 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Maccadam shows up in Retribution! He talks and everything.

@  Plokatron : (31 May 2016 - 09:18 PM)

Question anyone know if the bar keep http://tfwiki.net/me...ams_destiny.jpg here is Maccadam? Or is he just the face of the joint and we still haven't seen Maccadam?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 May 2016 - 08:01 PM)

And now my Dia Battles order has processed and will ship Any. Hugging. Minute.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 05:01 PM)

I know, I just thought it was an amusing coincidence.

@  Bass X0 : (31 May 2016 - 04:58 PM)

its easy to get shouts during the same minute.

@  Rycochet : (31 May 2016 - 04:55 PM)

Rob Lobclaw?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 04:49 PM)

Wow, I didn't even see Bass's shout when I was typing up mine. It was some freak accident that ours were at almost the exact same time, I guess.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 04:46 PM)

The Seacons should just replace Nautilator with a Lobclaw drone. It'd save 'em a lot of heartache.

@  Bass X0 : (31 May 2016 - 04:46 PM)

We spend a lot of our youth wishing we were older, and a lot of our time as adults wishing we were kids again.

@  ShadowMan024 : (31 May 2016 - 04:38 PM)

You still have Nautilator. YOU ALL STILL HAVE NAUTILATOR!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 May 2016 - 03:45 PM)

Release the Nautilator! No, really, release him, he sucks.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 03:01 PM)

Feed them to the Gnawticas!

@  Bass X0 : (31 May 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Feed them to the sharkticons!

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 01:47 PM)

Or feed them to squirrels.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (31 May 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Put them in the collection box at the food bank instead.

@  ▲ndrusi : (31 May 2016 - 01:39 PM)

don't put your canned goods in the search box

@  Nutjob R/T : (31 May 2016 - 01:05 PM)

blurg i can the search box good

@  ShadowMan024 : (31 May 2016 - 01:00 PM)

magna

@  Nutjob R/T : (31 May 2016 - 12:59 PM)

pyra

@  Robowang : (31 May 2016 - 10:31 AM)

Oprah's couch has withstood many years of OPRAH. It can withstand ANYTHING.

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 May 2016 - 05:32 AM)

Oprah's couch has been reinforced by many years of smug. It can withstand great pressure.

@  Pennpenn : (31 May 2016 - 05:17 AM)

That just asks more questions about Oprah's couch, then.

@  unluckiness : (31 May 2016 - 04:43 AM)

Can it? Oprah's couch seems fine.

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 May 2016 - 04:42 AM)

Cruise's ego can crush planets. That counts, right?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (30 May 2016 - 07:38 PM)

Xenu is just Tom Cruise in a wig, though.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 May 2016 - 07:00 PM)

I'm pretty sure cruze just offers the planets to xenu, he doesn't actaull eat them himself.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (30 May 2016 - 06:57 PM)

And they both eat planets.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 May 2016 - 06:56 PM)

well, it was one or the other. I might have been confused because they both have huge heads.

@  Foffy the Sheep : (30 May 2016 - 06:35 PM)

I've never heard that before. Are you sure you're not thinking of Tom Cruise?

@  wonko the sane? : (30 May 2016 - 06:32 PM)

I thought galactus was supposed to appear differently depending on which species is looking at him?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (30 May 2016 - 04:55 PM)

Galactus isn't goofy-looking. His hat is the grandest of all hats!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 May 2016 - 12:58 PM)

And we run into something like the Galactus Fashion Conundrum. Are YOU going to be the one to go up to his face and tell him he's goofy-looking?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (30 May 2016 - 12:32 PM)

Maybe Miles's villains think you're lame!

@  unluckiness : (30 May 2016 - 11:07 AM)

I don't mind Miles but his villains are kinda lame.

@  Bass X0 : (30 May 2016 - 09:29 AM)

I just thankful they didn't have a black Peter Parker.

@  tffan01 : (30 May 2016 - 09:09 AM)

I would have preferred Peter Parker. But If they really wanted to make a non-Peter Parker lead, they could have made Spider-Man 2099, at least it has a gimmick (futurism). While Miles, imo isn't that different from Peter Parker.

@  Locoman : (30 May 2016 - 08:52 AM)

That would be cool. Ultimate Universe kind of went off the rails toward the end, but I always liked Miles.

@  tffan01 : (30 May 2016 - 08:25 AM)

http://io9.gizmodo.com/report-the-new-animated-spider-man-movie-will-star-mil-1779201902

@  tffan01 : (30 May 2016 - 08:24 AM)

I heard new Spider-Man animated movie will feature Miles Morales.

@  unluckiness : (30 May 2016 - 03:43 AM)

A lot of mine have somehow gotten so floppy that floor polish doesn't help. May need superglue

@  Paladin : (29 May 2016 - 07:51 PM)

there remains an Omega Supreme-sized hole in my Animated collection that not even 3P wants to fill....

@  Nutjob R/T : (29 May 2016 - 07:23 PM)

Just pulled out the Animated box after a few years in storage. Giving it some time is the godhonest truth, these things are awesome

@  Touch My Thighs : (29 May 2016 - 07:12 PM)

http://swanh.net/ This is really impressive.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 May 2016 - 06:20 PM)

I keep having to say this to folks: fandoms are voluntary. Enjoy in any ratio or methodology that you choose.


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#1 Spark

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:32 PM

I was digging through Micromasters and started thinking about notions I was absolutely sure of when I was little that I didn't find out were wrong till years later one way or another...

-G1 Hubcap was Bumblebee. Hey, they were both yellow and tiny, but Hubcap had a FACE like on the show!

-G1 Pointblank was a new Hot Rod. ...Er, yeah. I thought this right up until I saw an '87 catalog and Rebirth around '94 or so. Plus, I didn't get a Hot Rod figure until he was reissued in Japan the first time.

-G1 Fixit was so totally Ratchet. I had no idea what the Micromasters' names were until years later.

-G1 Tote was so totally Ironhide. Uh, ditto.


So what goofy things did you believe till you found out otherwise?

Edited by Spark, 21 August 2009 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:42 PM

I could keep the Micromasters separate, but there was no such guy as Ratchet (First Aid was clearly around the entire time). Prowl and Streetwise were the same guy, and his name was Red Alert. Devastator was yellow. There were exactly four Dinobots.

Perhaps the best part of my childhood confusion was that I somehow managed to combine Five Faces of Darkness and The Rebirth into one huge, epic story in my head.

Edited by Andrusi, 05 April 2008 - 09:44 PM.


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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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#3 Spark

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Andrusi @ Apr 5 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps the best part of my childhood confusion was that I somehow managed to combine Five Faces of Darkness and The Rebirth into one huge, epic story in my head.

They actually fit together okay if you watch them back to back. Mostly.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:04 PM

I remember being real little and trying to tf my actionmasters into vehicle mode. Same with beastbox. I had lost squalktalk early on, and for some reason thought I could get him to turn into a robot on his own (since he had the face). In both situations I was real little and thought it was just me making a mistake and not transforming them correctly, as opposed to it just not being possible in the first place.

I also used micromasters as equivalents of the bots I didn;t have. The military-like micros (A armored car, tank, black helicopter, and one other) were my combaticons.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:35 PM

Heh, I used to think Skyfall actually had a vehicle mode since theoretically he transforms just like the Pretenders robot innards, so I'd fold his legs outwards and put his arms pointing back like Waverider. Worked okay, actually.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:35 PM

I used to think the lines on the crest of the autobot symbol was supposed to be its eyes. It actualy took me a few years to realize the negative space below them was it's optics. *shrug*
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Apr 5 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-G1 Hubcap was Bumblebee. Hey, they were both yellow and tiny, but Hubcap had a FACE like on the show!


G1 Hubcap WAS Bumblebee. He got rebuilt in "The Return of Optimus Prime" and took the new name.


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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(jamieslan @ Apr 5 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to think the lines on the crest of the autobot symbol was supposed to be its eyes. It actualy took me a few years to realize the negative space below them was it's optics. *shrug*


The Decepticon symbol was seen to me like this, probably until I was about 6:
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See? it's a sad little man!

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:43 PM

My original timeline went like this: Machine Wars --> Beast Wars --> Beast Machines. Apparently, I thought MW was G1. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:04 PM

I thought Beast Wars and Transformers were two different franchises. It was during Beast Wars's first run, and I didn't know Transformers even existed.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Sailor Unicron @ Apr 5 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought Beast Wars and Transformers were two different franchises. It was during Beast Wars's first run, and I didn't know Transformers even existed.

Through no fault of your own, really. I think a lot of people thought Beast Wars was a Transformers ripoff until the G1 references started coming.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:16 PM

-This one kid from Sunday school was telling me about the Cassetticons, and said "My friend has those tapes. They really play!" Since I didn't have any of my own, I actually believed him at first.

-Since Octane was showcased in the same commercial that introduced the Autobot Triple Changers, I came away thinking Octane was also an Autobot.

-After a while, my memories of TF:TM, "Five Faces of Darkness", and "The Rebirth" all blurred together, and as a result, I spent literally years misremembering that the debuts of Metroplex and Trypticon and Bumblebee's adoption of the name Goldbug had all happened in the movie.

-At the end of "The Return of Optimus Prime", when Galvatron says "There will be no war today", I interpreted it to mean that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict had permanently ended. At the same time, I didn't extrapolate from that that "TRoOP" was the series finale- just that the cartoon would revolve around some other conflict from that point on.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:33 PM

QUOTE(TVsGrady @ Apr 6 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-This one kid from Sunday school was telling me about the Cassetticons, and said "My friend has those tapes. They really play!" Since I didn't have any of my own, I actually believed him at first.

I think everyone's had an idiot friend that said that at some point. Also, Soundwave and/or Blaster (whichever one you didn't have) could totally play tapes.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:38 PM

I interpreted one of the early Soundwave commercials ot mean that everyone had a little guy that popped out of his chest. When I finally got a Transformer, Twin Twist, I figured that his gun's natural ability to fold into a little rectangle, shrink, and be stowed in his chest just wasn't the kind of thing a toy could be expected to represent.

My schedule didn't allow me to watch post-movie eps regularly, so a helpful kid in the lunch line filled me in on what had happened to the human characters. Sparkplug didn't show up anymore because Snapgragon had EATEN HIM, and SPAT OUT HIS SKELETON. It's possible he was misremembering Overkill vs. Daniel. It's also possible he was insane.

I remember a kid at camp explaining to me that the cool thing about rubsigns was that there were Decepticon versions of ALL the Mini-Bots, and he had a Decepticon Beachcomber. I realize now that he was talking about Mini-Spies, and probably had a blue Jeep... I wasn't aware of Mini-Spies at the time, as they weren't in catalogs.

Oh, and from 1987 through around 2000 or so I mistransformed Fort Max. I had his chest window going the wrong way in city mode.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 12:00 AM

I had a lot of trouble with the Skyfire / Jetfire thing. I had never seen the toy, so I had no idea why this guy had two different names. I think I even scribbled over the name "Jetfire" in my Transformers Universe #2 and wrote in "Skyfire" in pencil. A similar problem occurred with the coloring books that called Cliffjumper "Blow-Out".

I believed in blue Bluestreak.

Not quite childhood, but in the early days of the internet there was a Character List on some site naming every episode each character appeared in. It said Topspin and Twin Twist appeared in The Ultimate Weapon, and I really took it to heart. Years later, I finally admitted they didn't after going through the DVD frame. by. frame.

I also had problems accepting the Transformers: Generation 2 cartoon. I was so excited that Transformers was back on the air, I didn't realize at first that it was just a bunch of repeats. The first G2 episode I saw was "The Core", which didn't help since the animation was obviously different, and it was one of those episodes I either missed completely or didn't remember from G1. But as I was watching it, my neurons kept misfiring because the Constructicons weren't YELLOW! How could this be a G2 cartoon if they were still green?!

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 12:04 AM

When I was a kid, I had no idea what the hell was up with Headmasters and Powermasters, whether they were little guys driving regular Transformers or Transformers that could eject their heads and run away when they got beaten or were people who built Transformers suits to work with the other Transformers. I just knew they were AWESOME.
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Posted 06 April 2008 - 01:25 AM

For years I "remembered" that the two generic Autobots who died in the acid vat inside Unicron in TFTM were Wheeljack and Ironhide.


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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:25 AM

Despite being born in '81, my childhood G1 viewing experience went: G1 season one (On video), Movie, season 3. As a result, I thought that every 1985 toy/character in the movie not featured in the first season (For instance, Triple Changers, Coneheads, Blaster and Perceptor) had his first appearance IN the movie. I had no idea that they were in the cartoon before the movie, or that such a thing as "season two" of the cartoon even existed until I saw G2 on TV in 1995. Similarly, I thought the first appearance of the 1986 combiners was in Five Faces of Darkness, and had no idea that the Combaticons, Stunticons and Aerialbots had proper introductions before the movie.

The first time I watched Beast Wars (In the middle of the first season), I thought they were supposed to be renamed versions of G1 characters, and kept trying in vain to identify which G1 characters they were meant to be. (This was, uh, when I was 16, so not exactly "early"... >_>)

The first time I saw Nightbeat, I thought he was a new version of Tracks (Blue car with flames). I...think the misconception stuck for a short time after I actually *owned* the figure...


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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:51 AM

In 4th grade I was pretty convinced I'd saw an Orange colored Optimus Prime who had his exact trailer but it didn't open before the red Prime came out.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:56 AM

Before I heard his name or saw him transform, I believed Gas Skunk was a scorpion.

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