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#21 Pete@BotCon

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:20 PM

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Also, if Ratchet is alive, and not merely a dead trophee, why didn't the other Autobots pick him up when they got Mirage?
"What's up with Ratchet?" is one of the "monster sized, HUGE" plot holes leftover from Marvel G1 that I'd like to see addressed, and all that image does is tell us that FP is aware of it. It doesn't serve to ANSWER this question in any meaningful way.

As to why the Autobots didn't pick Ratchet up? I doubt they knew he was there. No reason that they would ever have been in that room....


Yes, Ratchet was in Megatron's private chambers. The Autobots were never in that room.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Pete@BotCon @ Jul 24 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(SkyQuake @ Jul 23 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, if Ratchet is alive, and not merely a dead trophee, why didn't the other Autobots pick him up when they got Mirage?
"What's up with Ratchet?" is one of the "monster sized, HUGE" plot holes leftover from Marvel G1 that I'd like to see addressed, and all that image does is tell us that FP is aware of it. It doesn't serve to ANSWER this question in any meaningful way.

As to why the Autobots didn't pick Ratchet up? I doubt they knew he was there. No reason that they would ever have been in that room....


Yes, Ratchet was in Megatron's private chambers. The Autobots were never in that room.

Is he alive in there?
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:52 PM

"Alive/dead" is such a gray, fuzzy distinction as far as Transformers go.


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#24 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 10:43 PM

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"Alive/dead" is such a gray, fuzzy distinction as far as Transformers go.


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True enough. Just trying to get whatever information I can, since I have absolutely no faith that the comic will ever address this issue properly.
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#25 Pete@BotCon

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(M Sipher @ Jul 24 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Alive/dead" is such a gray, fuzzy distinction as far as Transformers go.


M "When You Really Think About It" Sipher

True enough. Just trying to get whatever information I can, since I have absolutely no faith that the comic will ever address this issue properly.


Ah, ye of little faith. Did I ever mention that the Ratchet/Megatron angle was probably one of my favorite angles from the Marvel series?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:52 PM

Really would like to know whats going on with Ratchet in the future.

Edit: Saw the book at the comic shop but put it on hold for tommorow due to lack of cash.

Anyways, Ratchet looked like nothing more than a dead trophee to me. Of course he could be in stasis but I don't think the connection between him and Megatron is serious enough for one to cancel the other. Meg's seems to have just left him on the floor like he's dead even if he could be in stasis he's been left in disrepair thats for certain. Meg's certainly isn't afraid of any threat from Ratchet. Just seems more like he just want's to show what happens to those who humiliate him.

Edited by SkullGrin, 27 July 2007 - 12:19 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(M Sipher @ Jul 24 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Alive/dead" is such a gray, fuzzy distinction as far as Transformers go.


M "When You Really Think About It" Sipher

True enough. Just trying to get whatever information I can, since I have absolutely no faith that the comic will ever address this issue properly.


Ah, ye of little faith. Did I ever mention that the Ratchet/Megatron angle was probably one of my favorite angles from the Marvel series?

Actually, I think you might have once. And I did myself call that "little faith" bit upon myself, so.... We'll see. I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised.
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 01:13 AM

I received my copy of the issue in the mail on Friday.
It was mostly enjoyable, Milne's pencils and the story direction were great. It felt true enough to a continuity that I've loved and I'm glad to see it picked back up. I really could have used some better dialogue, it just kinda moved the story and none of the banter was particularly interesting. Well, except maybe the bit with Elita-1 and Ravage. What's with the lack of commas in certain places where one would typically be used? I'm not a professional and so maybe that's an accepted form of writing dialogue. After seeing it a few times, it kinda made me go "Huh."

Gushworthy was Tyrannitron's little cameo and the Classics Mini-Con origin story. From time to time FP stuff seems a bit more like pretty fanfiction, but I was very pleased by how that was handled. Very clever. icon-ironhide.gif I had to go back and check the pages to see if I missed a glimpse of any other Mini-Cons, but the attention they've received in their own story more than makes up for it.


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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:34 AM

Possible spoilers





















Killing Cy-kill in the DW and IDWverse 500 dollars

Having Cy-kill and Coptur hung in the Armada Decepticon base 1000 dollars

Making Leader-1 his bitch 2000 dollars.

Unwittingly destroying all of Gobotron in a teleporter accident priceless!

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:29 AM

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This doesn't really feel like Marvel G1 at all to me, despite all the references. They just feel tacked on. I guess part of it is we're seeing characters introduced - Ultra Magnus, Springer, and Elita One - who weren't really in the comics. If you're going to include Magnus and Springer, you might as well use the UK material. Hell, Ultra Magnus himself feels entirely wrong...I realize part of this is the fact his Classics toy is a Prime repaint, so they have to go with the "Little Prime" stuff, but it doesn't really work for me. And Elita One is a CARTOON character through and through.


Pete says he was only using the U.S. Marvel comics as earlier continuity. Ultra Magnus is in because he has a Classics toy that can't be ignored and he was never shown in the U.S. continuity so this would be his first time on Earth. If you want to fit it in to U.K. continuity, lets say something happened to Magnus when he disappeared in the U.K. comics resulting in his new appearance and a loss of memory. I don't see any glaring problems with Springer's inclusion. Maybe now he's the only Survivor.

Elita One was a cartoon character, here she is just a brand new character. Nothing I read says she has the same origin as cartoon Elita One.
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 10:25 AM

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Elita One was a cartoon character, here she is just a brand new character. Nothing I read says she has the same origin as cartoon Elita One.
Rather than get into all the old arguments again, I'd like to point out that nothing we've read so far gives "Classics" Elita One an origin at all.

Of course, if they DO make a club exclusive of her, there will probably be some online fiction to rectify that situation.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 03:13 PM

hmmm, is this FP comic in canon wiht the older FP comics? becasue then we know that somehow ratchet lives through this and winds up in that body he was in the future with alternator bumblebee...

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 03:41 PM

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hmmm, is this FP comic in canon wiht the older FP comics? becasue then we know that somehow ratchet lives through this and winds up in that body he was in the future with alternator bumblebee...

No, the BotCon 2005 comic is explicitly (well, according to Pete, anyway) a different continuity.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 05 August 2007 - 03:42 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:14 PM

I was just re-reading this comic (yeah, 5 years later!), and one thing that was nice but I think could have been better was Shockwave. While the head on a pedistal was cool, an even more fitting torture for Shockwave would be if Megatron could lock him in gun mode, somehow shrink him down, and use him as his personal sidearm, like was done in Megatron in the Marvel comic (or also the Devil's Due comics). Has anyone ever portrayed Shockwave as shrinking? I don't think so, but you can still do something original from time to time. Maybe he could always shrink, but choose not it?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:35 PM

I think keeping Shockwave captive as a head is way more appropriate poetic justice for a Marvel continuity story, since that's what Shockwave did to Optimus Prime.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:49 PM

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Has anyone ever portrayed Shockwave as shrinking? I don't think so, but you can still do something original from time to time. Maybe he could always shrink, but choose not it?

As you say, people could do something original if they wanted to. But part of Shockwave's deal is that, unlike nearly every other Transformer from the first couple of years of the line, Shockwave never adapted a non-Cybertronian alt-mode. Indeed, his Marvel Universe profile goes so far as to say that this is exactly why he stays the same size (relative to his robot mode) when he transforms.

For that reason, I would hope that any story that broke convention and portrayed Shockwave as shrinking did so fairly self-consciously, lest it appear as a mistake.

All that said, I'm with Walky as to the poetic justice of Shockwave-as-head.
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