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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#1 Drivaaar

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:54 PM

Hey everyone!

Okay, here's the first four pages of my next comic project, "The Best Defence...".

Set a few years after "Courage Under Fire", "Crisis Of Conscience", and "Out Of Time", this comic is a little more stand-alone.

Many thanks to SolFire for letting me use his fancharacter, and to -VP- for the use of Sentinus (who's arm features non-prominently in panel 4. icon-fire.gif). Also, mad props to Drivaaar for the use of Quartz. Sterling dude, I'm sure none of this would be possible without him.

This time around, everything on these 4 pages is by me. Pencils, inks, colours, lock stock and barrel. Expect the final 4 pages of part one to be posted in the coming months, as and when I finish 'em.

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TO BE CONTINUED...

Comments and critiques more than welcome!

#2 MiLkShAkE

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:07 PM

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.
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#3 Drivaaar

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:11 PM

Magnus must come from the Nightbeat school of blame aportion.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:29 PM

Excuse me while I jump around with glee.

*jump, jump, jump*

Did I do it? Or didn't I? Will I meet Sentinus? Kup? Rodimus?
Stay tuned....I know I will!

EXPLOSIVE THORN!!!!! BOOM!

Ummm, really nice job Kris. I can't believe how well you translated Sol's bio into the story. What with the whole Ultra Magnus sending him on assignment. Someone's getting a big ole chrimmus gift this year!

On a strickly art side: Everything is very well done. Colors and atmosphere are great! They emphasize but not detract from the story.
The only, only, thing that catches my eye is the green spotlights; and that's only in the last 2 big panels. Seems like they're missing light sources. I mean, they fade and all, but the actual light source seems to be missing. Maybe add in some yellow around the base?

Love you, love your hair, hope you win!
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Edited by SolFire, 16 May 2007 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:44 PM

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?
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Man, I am so excited to see how this turns out. I fel some really big twist coming. In 4 pages you set up a lot for the rest of the story.Very well done. The art is fantastic as always.

I can't wait to see a fully drawn Sentinus coming from you. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE(-VP- @ May 16 2007, 09:44 PM) View Post

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?



HOLEE jive!!!
Big...BIG ole crimmus pressie!

#7 Draange

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:57 PM

This is just so cool. I love the use of the profile pic on the one screen. Your work looks great like always and the story is awesome.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:13 PM

I love Kup. Seriously. In just a few panels, you create a father figure for Rodimus, one who can still call him "lad" even though his name ends in Prime now and one whose advice is firm and serious yet gently delivered. I may not know the first thing about how to critique the art side of things (about which I'll just say WOW PRETTY), but I like to think that I know good characterization when I see it, and I see it here. icon-hotrod.gif

Oh, and "KUH-DUNG!" is the best sound effect in a long time. icon-fire.gif


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:45 PM

Sweet I have always had a soft spot for your work Drivaaar! I can't wait for more!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:49 PM

You spin some mean words.

Rock on.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:18 PM

Have I mentioned how much I love your work? It reminds me so much of the old Marvel stuff.

You've come a long way for doing this all yerself, my friend.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:25 PM

Lovely written work so far, Drivaar!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE(MiLkShAkE @ May 16 2007, 09:07 PM) View Post

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.

it's because he doesn't want to deal with it now.


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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:13 AM

Damn yo! I love the story already! You always seem to have a way to keep me gripped and wanting for more!

#15 Drivaaar

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:01 AM

Cheers guys! You're enthusiasm keeps me wanting to make 'em! What makes it better is that you all seem to appreciate the story and the characters as well as the effort I put in to the art, and that means more to me than anything... comments like Newsy's just utterly psyche me, especially when I think of stuff like how Sentinus and Kup interact later, Quartz and Magnus having a domestic... Just makes me want to finish it quicker!

Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

Sol, glad you like SolFire's treatment - I try to stick fairly close to the bio's (hence the homage, heheh! Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis...) so that means a lot.

If anyone's interested, you know I hear the characters voices in my head? Well, the canon guys you already know (especially Kup, SO distinctive) but if you're wondering who the fan characters are going to sound like...

Quartz sounds like me. Cos he is me, pretty much.

SolFire... well, think Jeff Bridges in Tron.... "Because man!!"

Sentinus... I haven't gotten to any dialogue of his yet (his day comes in part two), but right now, I'm hearing a Kris Kristofferson-esque vibe...

EEeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm all psyched now. I've been so creatively bummed out lately, you've all got me jazzed up again!



#16 Wing

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:15 AM

Really sweet work, dude. icon-hotrod.gif

Love the voice choices. icon-fire.gif

Gotta say you're being an inspiration to me, in fiddling with my own comic ideas. I haven't had any come to fruition yet, but you always get the juices a-churnin'. =)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:38 AM

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON". I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.

Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.

I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.

Oh I forgot.. the colors on Rodimus are EXTREMLY OFF!!!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:26 AM

QUOTE(Drivaaar @ May 17 2007, 02:01 AM) View Post

Quartz and Magnus having a domestic

Who ever could have seen that coming? I mean, they always get along so fantastically well... icon-arcee.gif

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Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

WOO! And hey - maybe seeing that will get me off my butt and get me to finish the Sentinus piece I've been working on...

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Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis

What? Where?

*goes and looks* Oh SWEET. icon-fire.gif

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SolFire... well, think Jeff Bridges in Tron.... "Because man!!"

AHAHAHAHA! icon-fire.gif That's just great.


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#19 Drivaaar

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE(Headless Lieger @ May 17 2007, 08:38 AM) View Post

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON".


Actually, yeah, I'd thought of that. I figured that the scenery change was significant enough to warrant people would realise that they'd brought Sol aboard. Also, it's not an important story point that he's in a med lab - all that matters is that he's on the shuttle, which is obvious. That's my storytelling maxim - if it's not needed, bin it. At 16 pages, I've no space for frivolity, so everything, and I do mean everything in these 4 pages is crucial to the following 12.

Also, I'm wary of using "SOON.." or "LATER..." too often... but I see your point. When I've got the rest of the issue done, I'll be in a better palce to assess it.

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I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.


They're not actually blurred, I think it's just the outer glow that I've added. Again, it's not too important a detail. Magnus mentions a debris field, you see the hologram and put 1+1 together... I can live with it.
By the way, you can't read the text assigned to each fragment as it's too small, but they all read "Drivaaar01". icon-hotrod.gif

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Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.


It's a deliberate homage to Marvel's UK G1 comics.

Actually, that's bulljive - it's me. icon-hotrod.gif I've a VERY slapdash approach to my art - these are the tightest things I've ever drawn, and I have a HELL of a time keeping consistent models. I'm just lazy getting reference, and well... I dunno, I just get too excited, and want to rush it. I guess I feel that as long as the character is recognisable, and evokes the right emotion, I'm happy with that.

On the flip side, there's a definite improvement in my proportions approach. Go back and read "Courage"... the art makes me WINCE now...

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I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.


I think your proportions are fine. Oh you mean, your drawings.... well, your sequentials you posted a while back looked amazing in my opinion, much slicker and cleaner than my stuff. Post more of that, dammit!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 04:34 AM

Woo, great stuff! Big bada boom! Love that shot of Solfire floating through space. Somthing keeps bugging me about Rodimus though.. he seems too.. small? Seems to be about the same size as Kup.

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