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WorkbenchManiac


Based on the Botcon Flak toy, this figure of Ursa Magnus sports an entirely new head and paintjob. This piece is a commission, and one that I tremendously enjoyed.



The head is an entirely new sculpt, mostly made out of Super Sculpey and Green Stuff.





Ursa Magnus is heavily armed in both his robot and vehicle mode, no doubt a huge boon for any forum moderator on the internet.


For those who are interested, I'd like to share a few pictures of the sculpting process.



Starting with a rough oval of Sculpey, first the rough outlines of the facial features were established (left side), and then refined (right side).



The nose and eyes were still too large, and were subsequently reduced in size.



The next step was the helmet, done in Super Sculpey Firm.



The rim around Ursa's head, as well as the mohawk were added with Green Stuff. At this point the head was mostly done, only still needing to be properly fitted to the neck connector.


I had a tremendous time working on this figure, and I hope you enjoy the results as well.
Thanks for looking.



PS: 1000th post, woooot! Here's to the next 1000!
-VP-
Very nicely done!
Ursa Magnus
I again can't say enough how AWESOME this looks, and how grateful I am that you did it for me!

I can't wait for him to arrive so he may proudly take his place (safely behind glass where no little fingers can touch him) among his fellow Magnii, both Ultra and Ursa.

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Dissever
Love the feet on the robot mode. Great design choice, it nicely evokes a big craggy ol' paw. I like the inclusion of the face detail -- I have soooo many questions about the Sculpey and Sculpey Firm!
Dvandom
The shipfic you've all been waiting for: Ursa Magnus and Madame LeFleur!

---Dave
Devcon
DUDE.
WorkbenchManiac
Thanks guys!

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I again can't say enough how AWESOME this looks, and how grateful I am that you did it for me!

I'm glad you like him, and it really was a fun project to do.


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I like the inclusion of the face detail -- I have soooo many questions about the Sculpey and Sculpey Firm!

Ask away.


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The shipfic you've all been waiting for: Ursa Magnus and Madame LeFleur!

Somebody write this! And don't spare the saucy french flour on robot action.
Admiral Lilwall
That is legendary!
Cheetimus Primal
BIG BADABOOM!

Too swank.
Warewullf
That is gorgeous work! And thanks for posting the pics of the sculpting. For the life of me, I can't sculpt TF heads. My brain refuses to allow me to sculpt symmetrically.
Redshift
Fantastic work, the altmode choice is spot on- Large frame, clawed feet, and two large weapons that flip open. so much that's evocative of Ursa's particular traits.

Paint and sculpt are spot on, fantastic work with the head
Destron D-69
Madam la' floor icon-hotrod.gif

also nice custom... lol

I'm starting to put together an Idea I might run by you in the future WB, I just need to get it worked out in m head before I even commit it to a pm.

Ursa Magnus
QUOTE(Redshift @ May 29 2012, 07:30 PM) *
Fantastic work, the altmode choice is spot on- Large frame, clawed feet, and two large weapons that flip open. so much that's evocative of Ursa's particular traits.



Agreed. That's why the first time I saw this mold I knew that it would be used for/as Ursa in some way.
NICKSAUR
Yeah. Great concept and great execution. You nailed it.He's superb.
MrBlud
Phenomenal work!
WorkbenchManiac
Thanks for the kind words, they mean a lot to me.

But all praises for the design and the choice of the figure have to go to Ursa himself. And I have to agree, it's a really great choice and evocative of the character. I'm gonna miss him standing on my desk, his stern gaze silently telling me to finish him already... his aura of authority somewhat undermined by the sack of flour on his shoulder, but still.
Dissever
QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ May 29 2012, 02:07 PM) *
Ask away.


I am curious about the decision to use the Firm for the helmet, and the normal for the face. What prompted those choices? How would the figure have turned out differently if you used, say, the Firm for the face, and normal Sculpey for the helmet? What is the upper critical mass of Sculpey you could use on a transforming figure without worrying about pieces shearing off?
WorkbenchManiac
QUOTE(Dissever @ May 30 2012, 07:51 AM) *
I am curious about the decision to use the Firm for the helmet, and the normal for the face. What prompted those choices?

Firm is stiffer than regular Sculpey, which was useful for the chin guards. Thin, and somewhat unsupported structures can be delicate in Super Sculpey. I don't use Firm that often, and am more familiar with Sculpey, so I used that as my go-to putty for the bulk of the head.


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How would the figure have turned out differently if you used, say, the Firm for the face, and normal Sculpey for the helmet?

Not a huge difference, really. It's mostly a matter of how comfortable and familiar one feels with the putty.


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What is the upper critical mass of Sculpey you could use on a transforming figure without worrying about pieces shearing off?

Cured Sculpey, especially when it's somewhat thin, is brittle. It won't warp under stress, it breaks. The actual neck joint on Ursa is made of Brown Stuff (a stiffer, harder version of Green Stuff, aka Kneadatite), and in vehicle mode the head hangs freely on a hinge, so the shearing stresses are avoided.
I wouldn't recommend Sculpey for any parts of a figure, that have to resist shearing forces. Either use a more elastic putty, or cast the parts in resin.
Ursa Magnus
QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ May 30 2012, 09:21 AM) *
QUOTE(Dissever @ May 30 2012, 07:51 AM) *
What is the upper critical mass of Sculpey you could use on a transforming figure without worrying about pieces shearing off?

Cured Sculpey, especially when it's somewhat thin, is brittle. It won't warp under stress, it breaks. The actual neck joint on Ursa is made of Brown Stuff (a stiffer, harder version of Green Stuff, aka Kneadatite), and in vehicle mode the head hangs freely on a hinge, so the shearing stresses are avoided.
I wouldn't recommend Sculpey for any parts of a figure, that have to resist shearing forces. Either use a more elastic putty, or cast the parts in resin.



I think this is the picture you sent me that kind of shows the internal structure of Ursa's head, correct?

Dvandom
Have you tried working with Milliput, Apoxie Sculpt or any of the other two-part epoxies besides Green Stuff/Brown Stuff?

---Dave
WorkbenchManiac
Eeyup. The core of the armature was milliput (yellow grey in the pic Ursa posted). I also use ProCreate.

Milliput is nice, because it is water-dilutible, so you can easily get smooth surfaces with a wet thumb. When cured I really like how hard and brittle it is, ideal to carve into, or make interesting rock formations. But it doesn't hold detail well at all, it's a very poor choice for actually sculpting miniatures. I use it for rocks, stone surfaces, or to cheaply bulk out armatures.

I tend to use green stuff, because it is the industry standard when it comes to miniatures. It can withstand the heat and pressure when vulcanizing the molds for spin casting, it holds detail well, it is nice and sticky when fresh, so it can adhere to the armature/sculpt (and stickyness enables me to "pull" the putty outwards, when it adheres to my tool), while drying it changes it's properties (sometimes you want a less sticky, less soft putty), and it's just what I'm most used to. Familiarity with the medium is a huge deal.

I go with Sculpey for projects I know will take a bit longer than the ~45min Green Stuff allows before curing.

Apoxie Sculpt I have heard of, but I've never seen it in stores, so I never tried it. Is it any good?
Dvandom
Apoxie is mostly sold by mail order. I like it a LOT better than Milliput. It does all the good things Milliput does, but is a lot less likely to end up lumpy (easier to combine the two parts), and is significantly stronger than Milliput. Apoxie Clay is pretty close to Milliput in texture and workability, but slightly less sticky. Apoxie Sculpt is stickier when uncured, but much harder when cured. Both adhere well for adding directly onto existing plastic. Pretty much every sculpt mod I've done in the past few years has used Apoxie, usually Apoxie Clay. It holds sharp details well, but can also easily be made into softer organic shapes.

---Dave
Destron D-69
"Excuse me ...Madam?" -Ursa
"ohh la-la!" -an inanimate bag of flour explodes ... covering the much larger robot's face and upper chest in a thin layer of white powder.

over in a corner a somewhat depressed looking tiny pink horse swoons

the end.
WorkbenchManiac
QUOTE(Dvandom @ May 30 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Apoxie is mostly sold by mail order. I like it a LOT better than Milliput. It does all the good things Milliput does, but is a lot less likely to end up lumpy (easier to combine the two parts), and is significantly stronger than Milliput. Apoxie Clay is pretty close to Milliput in texture and workability, but slightly less sticky. Apoxie Sculpt is stickier when uncured, but much harder when cured. Both adhere well for adding directly onto existing plastic. Pretty much every sculpt mod I've done in the past few years has used Apoxie, usually Apoxie Clay. It holds sharp details well, but can also easily be made into softer organic shapes.

---Dave

Thanks for the in-depth description, that actually sounds pretty nice. I'll keep it in mind next time I order more putty.
Is apoxie clay/sculpt water soluble, too? Because that is one of my favorite things about Milliput.


QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ May 30 2012, 05:46 PM) *
"Excuse me ...Madam?" -Ursa
"ohh la-la!" -an inanimate bag of flour explodes ... covering the much larger robot's face and upper chest in a thin layer of white powder.

over in a corner a somewhat depressed looking tiny pink horse swoons

the end.

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Dvandom
Yep, the clay has pretty much the same water behavior as Milliput. Sculpt works differently, due to being sticky.

---Dave
TM2 Dinobot
Oh come on, Des. You've got to want it.

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Ursa sat, studding the personnel readout, the blue screen of the monitor illuminating the pearly white glow of his armor. The sound of sifting that wafted up from behind distracted him, but only momentarily. The sweet smell of freshly ground wheat tried to drag his mind from work, but failed.

"Vhat are joo sinking of, my love?" the gentle sack cloth caressed his shoulder.

"I was thinking of how beautiful you are." Ursa smiled.

"Ze do not love joo. Ze do not appreciate joo. I ham ze only von who knows joor burden."

Ursa relaxed his optics as he began to feel the fine powder filter down through his grooves.

"Come, let me show joo vhat happiness is."

The sack cloth fell away, falling on his shoulder with a puff of white. The cloud slowly wafted in the air in abstract beauty, before being sucked into his air intakes, tickling his filters and clogging his respirators. Ursa shuddered as an electrical surge overloaded his system. His diagnostic lights blinked red, a warning of imminent stasis lock. He over road it with merely a though. She was the kindest, my loving and beautiful creature Ursa had ever met. If he was to die, he was glad it was by her ecstasy, wrapped in her embrace. His only regret, he though as life slipped thought his fingers, was that he was the only one who could see her.

---

Ursa woke up, putting a hand to his forehead as his mind stabilized itself. These nightmares were just getting weird.

"I've got to stop watching that pony show before bed."
Ursa Magnus
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...

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WorkbenchManiac
Damn you, I can't stop laughing. icon-fire.gif
shumworld
Nice!!!
Destron D-69
that is much better icon-fire.gif

I'll admit mine was more of a synopsis for the 'twilight zone' icon-arcee.gif anthology type show episode...

but yeah, I didn't want to let Desbrony out too much over here in Iacon

O_o there's no controlling him when he takes over...


"PURPLE ...PURPLE AWESOMESAUCE EVERYWHERE!!! TEE HEE!"

<_< it may be to late
Admiral Lilwall
... you people... o_O
Destron D-69
do you mean all of us... or just the me(s) specifically?
Admiral Lilwall
i mean all the crazy ones icon-arcee.gif
DarkeklawGW
And you're here too which means you only call us crazy cause you know your own kind. icon-hotrod.gif
Admiral Lilwall
I can be sane! Maybe. If I wanted to...
Ursa Magnus
Having arrived safely from Deutschland late last week New-Ursa had to wait until today to meet his predecessor...

ExVee
I bet he'd make a great chair, too.

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Boss Borot
If the formula is still the same as the Apoxie Sculpt batch I ordered some years back, it's water soluble and completely non-toxic (so you could eat it if you're gross or just feel like licking your fingers icon-fire.gif )
I personally had a difficult time getting it properly mixed in even amounts, but that's probably not a problem for someone with more experience.
Also: it smells like corn chips and can rot if left unopened (or stashed in a box for four years and you rediscover it and stupidly take a big sniff before you notice it's gone green)
It's pretty nice once you get it properly mixed. Sticky at the start, but less as it cures, and if you get the ratio right it sets up nice and strong and can be easily carved. ..now I think I want to order some more. It was awfully handy stuff.
WorkbenchManiac
QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Jun 10 2012, 10:23 PM) *
Having arrived safely from Deutschland late last week New-Ursa had to wait until today to meet his predecessor...

Oh no, you created a time paradox!

Btw, that isn't the regular Polar Claw head on beast Ursa, is it?
Ursa Magnus
QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ Jun 11 2012, 09:16 PM) *
Oh no, you created a time paradox!


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Btw, that isn't the regular Polar Claw head on beast Ursa, is it?


It is not. It's the regular Polar Claw head with an Alt Prowl face.
Tomasemily
Well, Ursa, you're a lucky guy.

And WM, you've done some great work on this!
Gizmoboy
Very nice piece!
Ursa Magnus
QUOTE(Tomasemily @ Jun 12 2012, 09:49 AM) *
Well, Ursa, you're a lucky guy.



Don't I know it. icon-ironhide.gif
shumworld
QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Jun 10 2012, 11:23 PM) *
Having arrived safely from Deutschland late last week New-Ursa had to wait until today to meet his predecessor...



Okay not lets see them transform and combine into Ursa Maximus.
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