QUOTE(J4n1 @ Apr 3 2012, 11:21 PM)
Monarchy, with immortal god-monarchs at it's helm, who every day rise and lower the sun and the moon, who's very words are punctuated by thunder and lightning if they are not carefull, with powers far beyond mere mortal ponies.
Are they immortal? What's the lifespan of the average pony? A being like dischord seems much more God like. I don't think any fit the bill.
You can stomp your foot all week if you want, but that does not make you right,
Stomping my foot doesn't make me right. Being right makes me right.
nor does it suddenly make religion conform to your incredibly narrow definition of it.
Don't pretend I haven't accepted that my original assessment was over simplified, something I was well aware of when I posted it. Stop having such a narrow view of what I'm saying.
And you haven't answered my question, do you deny the godhood of Celestia and Luna,
I deny the Godhood of Celestia and Luna. I have made that quite clear.
or do you claim that ponies do not believe they exist?
What a stupid statement. No one would say this.
How? Maybe in the way that it contradicts your claim religion has only one small, narrow, set of definitions, and must include gods.
So no need to be snide about someone actually bringing something to the table instead of just going "no, just because".
You're not saying anything. I asked how the Wikipedia explanation of religion applied where mine did not. Since you're trying to make the point that Celestia and Luna are Gods, your issues with my simple explanation of religion are irrelevant, as you are trying to argue they fit into that simple explanation.
It's also never stated OR implied that they aren't.
I am a God. It never been stated OR implied that I am not. Spike is a God. It has never been stated OR implied that he's not. Derpy is a God. It has never been stated OR implied that she's not. I could go on...
However, that's fairly irrelevant to my point, which was that if we consider the princesses as gods (and calling them princesses instead of gods implies nothing in any direction), then the religion worshipping them could easily take shape completely indistinguishable from secular goverment
Except that there's no religion, no worship, nothing they do has anything in common with most religions, they're not divine and not Gods. Other than that, it fits really well.
(a point nobody has yet to actually debate, except Adam who keeps insisting that it is not, and cannot be, religion, because he says so).
I've given many reasons. You haven't defended your point at all.
Also, just because they are not gods, does not mean they could not be considered such (or nearest equivelant thereof) by the ponies, and just because they are gods, does not mean ponies might not think of them as such.
But they aren't considered Gods by the ponies.
One can argue that school is the same as a job because of many similarities, but if you don't get paid to go to school, it's not a job. You seem to be doing this. Drawing parallels on everything but the actual relevant point of what would make it a religion.
Yet, the possible divinity of the two princesses, is largely a matter of opinion for now
Something being a God isn't really a matter of opinion. Though one can have a religion simply by believing someone is a God. This does not seem to be a view anyone in the My Little Pony universe shares. You say the name Princess doesn't matter. Doesn't it? It's the name their subjects call them. Clearly they view them as Princesses, not Gods, so by your own logic, it is not a religion.