Well!



So yeah, they're not Mutants. Or technically turtles, I guess.

Or technically Ninja's. They'll be some sort of Space Ninjas.

Hello Michael Bay, welcome to MISSING THE POINT.

wow thats big change.


Guess TF fans can't bitch anymore. the Turtles fans have it worse

We'll see if they're even teenagers.

I'm not sure I'd call it Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles movie any more than Transformers are Stephen Spielberg's Transformers movies.

Vicious, thanks for your support.  Spengs, I love ya, but I gotta say it..."told ya so."

Bay, I hate you. I could fill a book, but let me just say, die. Die die die die......DIE!

I feel a great disturbance in the Force. As though millions of 90s kids cried out in terror...

Thank God he never got his hands on Transformers...

Next up, Thundercats. Let's screw 'em all over!

I'm hoping that by "alien" he didn't mean it like "space aliens", but more along the lines of "bizarre outsiders".

will be domesticated cats that are stuck by lightning that turns them into furries

I don't trust anything this man says in advance about his films.

Bingo. He's an admitted liar so we'll see.

So TMNT uses the Thundercats backstory, and Thundercats uses the TMNT backstory?

Its only fair

Why is this idiot still allowed to make movies? If you don't want to make a TMNT movie, Bay, then DON'T MAKE A TMNT MOVIE! You don't have to jive all over the property. He's worse than Uwe Boll, because at least that guy never got his dirty dumbass mitts on A-list properties.

Or he could have been referring to cause of their mutation as being alien in origin.

^I'm with those two.


Alien doesn't always mean from outer space, just different than human...or what we're used to.


The man can't be that stupid.

Don't you know? He's awesome—Just ask him.

Have you seen his movies?

Because the movies he makes do very well.

Maybe this is a Fatheads-> Wacky Deli situation. Bay wants out of toy movies, but they won't let him out.

I am Michelangelo! I am the best character on this show! I am better than both Leonardo and Raphael combined!

So does pornography.

Wow just wow. One quote about the movie and its completely ruin. Oboy its going to be itneresting listen to TMNT fandom as more news about this movie is release.

Yeah. That's why the make so much of it.

So I guess its time for the internet's favorite game show: "Jumping to conclusions!"

All 3 Transformers movies. They're very fun to watch. What did he get right?

Robots turn into things. The good ones fight the bad ones with violence. Optimus and Megatron are somehow involved. Ya know, the basics of the entire franchise that basically anyone can get right knowing nothing other than the title of the show.

Pop quiz!

What is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles about?


He may not be everyone's (or anyone's) favorite director, but he knows how to make a movie that people will see...and I'm pretty sure that whoever owns the rights to the turtles will not allow them to actually be aliens....just alien from human...ie: Mutant Turtles who are Teenage Ninjas.


However: I'll admit my wrongness if/when I'm proved wrong.

I'm a little verlkempt! Talk amongst yourselves...I'l give you a topic.

Michael Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are neither teenagers nor mutants nor ninjas nor turtles. Discuss.

Oh yeah...you already are...and agreed...this is stupid.

Oh boy, it's 2007 all over again!



Where is that blasted game board?

Actually, I've been all about doom and gloom before the quote...since I even heard Bay was attached to this I've had bad feelings. It's just that the quote does little to change my mind and, in fact, made things worse. If he meant "Alien" as in "not human," he chose his words extremely poorly. The way he makes it sound, they weren't just normal turtles who got turned into mutants. They were from an alien RACE. He specifically said "race." So there's not just the four of them, there's a whole civilization of them out there. That's very far from what the turtles are supposed to be, even further than the current IDW comics. 

I can except some changes to the back story. But to make them a whole race? And I'm not buying the whole "alien doesn't necessarilly mean from outerspace" argument. He knew exactly what he was implying.



You can stop right there. Because honestly, I don't give a crap what he got right. And I'll admit, he did get some stuff very much right. I enjoyed the action scenes. It was great hearing Peter Cullen at the helm as Optimus again. He may have gotten quite a few things right. 

But the things he got wrong made it so unbearable, I haven't watched the first movie in forever because of it. The scenes with Sam's mother: Were you masturbating, I had no idea college students put pot in brownies so now I'm gonna act drunk off my ass (and yes, I typed what I meant. She doesn't act high, she acts drunk), Bumblebee peeing on a human, John Turturro's thonged ass right in my face...do I really need to go on? All this toilet humor made it impossible to watch. I would be embarressed to watch this around anyone I know because of this. The third movie thankfully kept this humor to a minimum, though the less said about "Deep Wang" the better. Maybe it's just me, but this completely juvenile toilet humor totally overshadowed what he got right. It's been a good long time since I've watched the first couple movies because of this and it'll probably be a good long time still, if ever, before I ever watch them again.

And then there's the toys. Dear heaven the toys! I'm fine with there being toys of the movie figures. But for the longest time, that's all...there...was. It doesn't help much that finally there's some Transformer Prime toys out, because even those design aesthetics seem closely linked to the movie designs. The generations line is okay, but both these lines are still overshadowed by the "Dark of the Moon" line that, honestly, I've stopped collecting Transformer toys. The designs were all well and good when the movies first came out. But I am so freaking sick of it now that I hardly even look at Transformers whenever I go to the toy section any more.

And don't even get me started on the whole "did not do the research" when it comes to the Rock or the "are you freaking kidding me" when it comes to Armageddon.

Not aliens and not an entire race, I'll tell you that much right now.



I'll give you that one, seeing as how, heaven help me, I actually did watch Transformers 2 and 3 even after the embarrassment of the first one. And as much as I cringe at some of the stupid "didn't do the research" from the Rock, I still actually enjoy that some. 

It's just, in my opinion, he's screwed up the Transformers so much that the last thing I want to see is what he makes of the Turtles.

Here's hoping. 

As will I. If I'm proved wrong (and I honestly hope I am, I really really do), I'll be the first on here saying I was wrong. But given his track record with Transformers...I'm fearful.

Splinter: What are you doing in here Raph? Are you masturbating?
Raph: Master Splinter! What? No!
Splinter:We don't have to call it...
[Mona Lisa steps out]
Splinter: Oh, you were just having underaged sex. Carry on. No reason that as a parent I should be outraged by this.

One man's "unbearable" is another man's "funny." I mean, Dane Cook somehow got a career!


I find the humor in the movies (except for the various leg humpings) to be quite funny, yet am also able to enjoy things such as Fry and Laurie. Such is the nature of such subjective things.


Then again, I'm not even sure why I came in here, never been a huge Turtles fan...carry on chaps!

You could would enjoy Transformers movies more if you simply accepted Shia Labeouf as a master of comedy.

You seem unable to distinguish between "writer" and "director". A writer writes the stuff that happens in the movie. A director shoots scenes based on this writing.

The whole "boy and his car" storyline in the first movie is all Spielberg.

Got a point there. With most of the movies I watch being James Cameron, Peter Jackson and Tarintino, I've grown used to the director and writer being the same person, it got easy to assume. However, like the quarterback in a football team, no matter what, it's the director that gets the some of the glory and all the blame. These films are still "Bay's films," so anything that happens in them is still either partly to his credit or all his fault.

So... you've seen like 20 movies?

Let me rephrase...with most of the movies I watch lately...blah blah blah.

Fair enough...

wait wait wait, is Bay even participating creatively on this movie, or does he just own the production company?

When I saw Platinum Dune's remake of Nightmare on Elm Street, and saw that Freddy didn't just burn to death- he got caught in a giant explosion, I said to myself, this has Bay's fingerprints all over it.

Aliens huh?

If that's the case I'm out....hopefully that's not how it'll be though.

I hope leo will have flames painted on his shell.

Well if Bay isn't directly involved, it might be good. It may seem hypocritical, since I actually liked the Transformers movies, for the most part, but Transformers and the TMNTs are two very different things. Transformers has always been a fairly shallow marketing ploy with some moments of exceptional greatness. All I ever really wanted out of the TF movies was some really awesome giant robots fighting each other, any other good stuff was just extra.

But there was actually a point to the TMNTs. They were originally conceived as a satire of their era of comics. I greatly doubt that Bay is at all subtle enough to pick up on the satirical angles of the franchise. The other worrying thing is the humor angle. The TMNTs make jokes. A lot of jokes. And God have mercy on our souls if we wind up with a movie filled with Bay humor.

But, as others have pointed out: He may not be directly involved. More details will be welcomed as they come in.

It's not "jumping to conclusions." It's "knowing Bay's track record."

Let the man make money for the franchise so TMNT will have money to make better cartoons and toys.

Hasbro as a whole wouldn't be doing half the things they're doing right now if it wasn't for his movies. It's all for the better good.

The real thing to ask yourself is 'What will Nickelodeon do with the money if this movie franchise is successful?'

More Avatar? More TMNT? Better toys? More new franchises?



I personally think he used the word 'alien' as a way to gauge internet reaction. Perhaps there was a dispute behind the scenes on which origin to go with. I believe this because I've seen things like this happen personally. The words you use in public are chosen very very carefully. It was used with a purpose and had to be approved by multiple people in charge.

Doesn't make them good.

Doesn't make them detrimental* to the franchises either.

Uwe of the other hand ACTUALLY makes bad movies that hurt their franchises.

*by 'detrimental' I mean making the franchise lose money or essentially killing off the franchise. Personal tastes for aesthetics or toys aside.

Movies don't make that much money off of people just walking in off the street once.

I've only watched each of his Transformers movies once and once only. I did get the DVD of the first movie but didn't bother watching it.

Just because I'm a fan of Transformers doesn't mean I have to like every single aspect about Transformers. But I wanted to see them just so I know whether I liked them or not. I'll be the same with the fourth movie too.

I've watched the 2nd and 3rd one only once all the way through too. Every now and then my friends will put on the 2nd one and fastforward to the action parts during a party or something.