Has anyone purchased iGear's G1-style Huffer and Seaspray toys? They look pretty cool to me (especially Seaspray/MW-01 Spray) and the prices are reasonable enough, but I fear they could be brittle messes.

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Mine should be arriving sometime this week from BBTS. My Maketoys notPowerglide and notSeaspray should be arriving around the same time from TFsource too. I only wanted the Powerglide, but they come as a set, although I'm thinking the Maketoys might be the better Seaspray design.

Anyway, if iGear's legends VW Bug Bumblee figure, which I have, is any indication of quality of these other iGear figures, the plastic quality should be very good. Not quite Hasbro plastic quality, but *extremely* close. In fact, if you didn't have the Hasbro legends Bee next to the iGear Bee to closely compare, you'd not even notice.

They're neat little toys and not brittle.

I don't regret buying them and I'll find them a spot, but I was surprised that they are considerably bigger than G1 minibots, but also considerably too small to fit in with Classics. That was kind of a disappointment.

I can't find those on their site (or on BBTS). Do you have links, by any chance?

Thanks!
Kevin

BBTS isn't selling Maketoys' notPowerglide and notSeaspray(other than the iGear version). Here's the link to them on TFsource:

http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/3243/

You have to search for their product names: Bomber and Hover.

Got mine in the mail tonight. They are both spiffy little dudes.

They don't fit perfectly with the Classics aesthetic - they're much more like character models from the cartoon come to life, rather than reinterpretations of the original designs. Wheeljack, Warpath, etc. look pretty mean and techy by comparison.

They're closer to Scout size than Deluxe - maybe a touch smaller and definitely simpler. Still, if you accept that these characters were always shorter than their brethren in the cartoon, it shouldn't be a problem.

The vehicle modes sacrifice a bit to provide a good robot mode - Huffer's truck mode cab is almost swallowed up by the rear hitch section, and Seaspray has some "holes" and isn't airtight like the original G1 minibot. But they really do capture the look and feel of the originals. It's not a look that Hasbro has really done. The plastic and the joints are all solid. At $18 each for an off-brand item, they're totally worth it.

ETA: Seaspray's feet don't quite peg completely together in hovercraft mode - there's a small gap. And the middle of his vehicle mode is pretty clearly his folded-up knees, and he doesn't really peg together overall. Like I said... emphasis is on the robot mode.

I got mine this weekend and really like them. They could do with a few extra paint apps added and once I figure out how to get paint to adhere to the type of plastic they've used, I'll be doing just that.

The joints are tight, the weapons are a snug fit. I didn't realise Spray would have a harpoon gun and Rager would have have dual six-shooters so they were a nice surprise. Rager does look seriously cool with those things!

The only downsides are Rager's wheels which are seriously cheap and nasty but not a deal-breaker. Spray's alt mode isn't the best either, to be honest. It doesn't fit together very well.

You can rotate Spray's propellers so they sit behind him instead of straight up, if you like. So that's nice.

Repowers is right, these really do look like cartoon models come to life. Bright, vibrant, simple and a ton of fun. If you only get one, go with Rager (Huffer).

Received my iGear notHuffer and iGear notSeaspray today.

Immediate thoughts: I like them.

Following thoughts: I wish they were colored a little darker than they are. Then I load up google to look at them in the G1 toon, and that's pretty much the colors they chose. I just wish notHuffer was a little more orange than he is, and I wish notSeapray had a darker blue than he does.

I *really* like the weapons. I'm a little dissappointed that they have nowhere to go in alt mode, but they really help zazz up the bot mode. notSeaspray's harpoon gun is especially cool and appropriate, not that there's anything wrong with notHuffer's dual wielding revolvers!

Now going to compare this iGear notSeaspray to Maketoy's notSeaspray:

The figures are quite different, and I'm seeing things I like in one over the other. Each has some issues, but neither quite share the same issue. Let me go into the pros and cons of each:



Maketoys' notSeaspray (Hover)

+ Nice dark blue and bright yellow.
+ Chest has enough color detail that you don't immediately notice it's missing a faction symbol.
+ More accurate molded nicely detailed G1 toon head.
+ More solid looking alt mode.
+ Shoulders, legs, knees and feet are on ball joints.
+ More humanoid proportions.

+/- About the same height as the other Hasbro Classics legends figures.
+/- No accessory weapons or fist holes.

- Transformation is very finicky around the shoulders because the arms have to be *just* right to move the yellow propeller backback into place. This is pretty much the main thing I dislike about the figure.
- Elbow joint is a swivel allowing only up and down motion.


iGear's notSeaspray (Spray)

+ Taller and more bulky than your average Hasbro Classics legends figures. Not quite scout class, but if your key worry is size, this is a big factor in this figure's favor. A head taller and more bulky than the Maketoys version.
+ Harpoon gun!
+ Shoulder *and* elbow joints are on ball joints, which is key in getting some great gun posing.
+ Legs and feet are on ball joints.

+/- Lighter shade of blue and yellow, but more G1 toon accurate choice of colors.
+/- Transformation is pretty much issue free, but the arms could lock into place better than they do in alt mode.
+/- Due to transformation, knees are on swivels, but they're ratcheted! Maybe this is a pure plus?
+/- Chest is nicely detailed, but lacking color, really needs a faction symbol to break up the monotony.

- Bot mode shoulder proportions just look a little off, especially when compared to the Maketoys.
- Boat feet are also a little more exaggerated when compared to the Maketoys version as well.
- Alt mode could stand to look a bit more solid.
- Nowhere to store harpoon gun in alt mode.

Plastic quality between the two is kind of hard to determine. I'm leaning towards the Maketoys having the slightly denser plastic, but that might just be because of the lighter colors chosen on the iGear. One thing's for certain, neither feel like a chinese Big Lots KO.

If you're buying Maketoys' notPowerglide, you pretty much have to buy their notSeaspray with it because they're packaged together. At a glance, I like the Maketoys version better because of the coloring and proportions. But there's alot to be said for the slightly bigger iGear version's ability to hold and pose with the harpoon gun. Which one looks better in a CHUG display? That's a tough one. I'm having trouble deciding, but I'm leaning towards the Maketoys version just because of how much I like the head mold and detail on it.

I don't think either looks good in a CHUG display. Maketoys look great with the Universe Legend minibots, completing the Cosmos, Warpath, and Beachcomber group. I still don't know where to put the iGear ones. They're standing around by themselves so far.

If they go on the CHUG shelf, they can't go anywhere near Bumblebee or Windcharger.

Yeah, if you're going to just put a notSeaspray in with Universe Legends only, then the Maketoys is definitely the way to go.

A few extra paint apps and maybe a darker shade of orange and I think notHuffer could fit in pretty well on a Classics shelf, provided size is not an issue. I don't have notSeaspray yet but the from the looks of it I kind of feel like the same would end up applying to him as well (IMO, of course).

I've heard the guns were an afterthought, which would explain why they can't be stored in alt mode. It's disappointing but I'd much rather have the armaments than not so I can live with it.

Love the tooling, love the weapons, and hate the paint issues on Huffer. PAINT THE DAMN WHEELS

I don't understand why people keep saying Spray would be so out of place in a Legends display. He's bulky, sure, but in robot mode his head is right at the same height as, say, Warpath's or Wheelie's. He fits in quite well enough for me.

Yeah, they fit in with the other Legends quite well.

Mine finally arrived and I'm happy with them both. My only complaint is I too would prefer a slightly more orange color for Huffer - he definitely photographs more orange than he is.

They've taken their places on the Classics shelf.

Mine finally arrived and I'm happy with them both. My only complaint is I too would prefer a slightly more orange color for Huffer - he definitely photographs more orange than he is.

They've taken their places on the Classics shelf.

I'm surprised to see that.

But I display my minibots in alt mode and the difference is stark there.

Mine arrived this morning and I absolutely love them! I still wish that the knees were balljointed but whatever, they're still awesome figs. All I can say now is c'mon IGear, get those preorders up for the next batch of minis, I'm more than ready for them.

My Spray showed up and I adore it It's just a perfect little Seaspray update.

Less adorable is the fact that, instead of getting on of him and Rager, I got two Spray.

Now for the long wait for exchange. Blah.

But Spray is pretty darn cool for the exceptionally low price.

I finally got around to ordering the Reprolabels set for Rager.

I wasn't expecting 3 different sets of stickers, and now I'm not sure which set to put in.

Which one did you guys go with/prefer/think looks best?

Edit: Nevermind, I ended up using most of them, and just have some spare Autobot symbols left.